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In hindsight i really regret not buying a GTX 680 straight away. At the time i decided it wasen't enough of an improvement over my gtx580 & would wait for the GTX780. If I knew over a year later that the nvidia graphics line would be in such a state I wouldn't of bothered waiting & just paid for that GTX680 on day 1.
Right now dual cards have jumped from the £500-600 area to an eye watering £800+ area. Gone are the days of 4870x2 for sub £400. We also have a new highest price ever for single gpu cards (excluding asus mars cards) in the form of Titan. This (unquestionably fast) card set a new benchmark for seeing quite how much people are prepared to spend on a single gpu.
With enough people willing to shed the cash nvidia brought out the GTX 780 for the usual £400-450....i mean new rip off/recession proof £550. In comparison to Titan its a steal, & this is what nvidia will tell people, but lets get realistic, compared to gtx770/7970 its ridiculously expensive & doesnt justify the new price tag.
The GTX 780 should have been the new series with the usual 15%+ improvement for the same price as the previous gens i.e. £400-440. Instead as Titan laid the groundworks for higher price points nvidia pounced on this. And so they come out at £550. 20% improvement or so for basically 75% more price. The GTX8800/R9700pro etc had bigger performance gains over previous gens without seeing the need for such premium. Nvidia must be loling hard.
The overpriced GTX680 gets rebadged to the GTX770. Nvidia hoping to fool some people? This should have been the GTX680 boost or pro or ultra or even GX685, it doesnt warrant GTX770 name. Yes it did the right thing of bringing a slightly faster version at a cheaper price but this "cheaper price" is what it should cost, its what it should have cost when the 7970GHZ went down to the £325 mark. Its Wwaaaayyy overdue. Its taken the best part of 10 months to bring the price down to level the 7970ghz.
Then theres the pricing of the older cards now. Another mess. So we have the GTX 680 at £330+ area? Hang on the GTX770 can be had for cheaper than this! We have the GTX670 at (with the exception of overclockers) the best part of £280+, again the GTX770 can be found for £293 (on certain other reputable site). And the GTX660ti which is more expensive than the GTX760. So basically the GTX680/670/660ti are all now stupidly priced. They are now pointless cards unless they drop in price, & im not buying the whole "its good for people wanting sli", you're getting overcharged.
We have the GTX770 released with 3rd party coolers because supposidly the Titan cooler costs more? Rubbish!. If this is true then why is it the GTX780 3rd party cooler designs cost more than the Titan cooler ones??? Further to this look at the Gigabyte GTX770 windforce, this card has the same 3x cooler
as the GTX780 3x cooler yet it is one of the cheapest GTX 770 prices going. How is this possible? Either the Titan cooler doesnt cost any extra or its clear that nvidia or retailers are ripping a new one. I guess because all the brands are releasing overclocked/3rd party cooler GTX770s they are not bothering to really charge a premium (rip off) price, whilst on the GTX780 gigabyte & EVGA with their "Cheaper" coolers are charging more compared to the "Expensive" stock titan cooler...hhhmmmm must be the overclocks. The same overclocks
which appear free on the gtx770 variety.
And again one has to wonder why the GTX780 gigabyte & EVGA cards commands premiums of £50+ in this country yet in the states its like 10$ (EVGA GTX780 ACX). Get the **** out! Thankfully as of today i notice one particular site has dropped their gigabyte 780 to £535 area. Still, as per the GTX770, if the titan cooler costs so much can you drop it further gigabyte/retailers?, after all, you're saving money using your own cooler...arent you??? Make up your minds.
Have to give credit to AMD for working with their drivers, dropping their prices, bundling games. Its a pity that as per the issue with the gtx680, I just don't feel the performance boost is quite there coming from a gtx580, especially as Ive waited so long i dont feel like cracking now but man the itch is bad. My only complaint is I wish AMD would at least hint
at what to expect from their next card, so that for us people sitting on the fence we can decide whether to just give up & buy whats available or wait. If they came out & just said "Expect GTX780 beating performance at a more reasonable price" then that would be enough to convince me to wait longer but I would hate to wait yet a further 3 months + for AMD to just do an nvidia & release another next gen card with a okish performance increase at a new higher stupid price going "Well they did it!".
Im a pc gamer, fps all the way for me. But can't say im impressed right now with these gpus. I have the money to buy a GTX780 right now & would love one but i refuse to pay the price that nvidia is milking. Its like ****ing cinema popcorn, we would all happily pay a bit of a premium but it gets to a stage when you just have to say "seriously? No!". Feels like their trying to drive people away to consoles. Sulk over, had to let off steam, its only my silly opinion. Apologies about the grammer. Feel free to mock away
.
Right now dual cards have jumped from the £500-600 area to an eye watering £800+ area. Gone are the days of 4870x2 for sub £400. We also have a new highest price ever for single gpu cards (excluding asus mars cards) in the form of Titan. This (unquestionably fast) card set a new benchmark for seeing quite how much people are prepared to spend on a single gpu.
With enough people willing to shed the cash nvidia brought out the GTX 780 for the usual £400-450....i mean new rip off/recession proof £550. In comparison to Titan its a steal, & this is what nvidia will tell people, but lets get realistic, compared to gtx770/7970 its ridiculously expensive & doesnt justify the new price tag.
The GTX 780 should have been the new series with the usual 15%+ improvement for the same price as the previous gens i.e. £400-440. Instead as Titan laid the groundworks for higher price points nvidia pounced on this. And so they come out at £550. 20% improvement or so for basically 75% more price. The GTX8800/R9700pro etc had bigger performance gains over previous gens without seeing the need for such premium. Nvidia must be loling hard.
The overpriced GTX680 gets rebadged to the GTX770. Nvidia hoping to fool some people? This should have been the GTX680 boost or pro or ultra or even GX685, it doesnt warrant GTX770 name. Yes it did the right thing of bringing a slightly faster version at a cheaper price but this "cheaper price" is what it should cost, its what it should have cost when the 7970GHZ went down to the £325 mark. Its Wwaaaayyy overdue. Its taken the best part of 10 months to bring the price down to level the 7970ghz.
Then theres the pricing of the older cards now. Another mess. So we have the GTX 680 at £330+ area? Hang on the GTX770 can be had for cheaper than this! We have the GTX670 at (with the exception of overclockers) the best part of £280+, again the GTX770 can be found for £293 (on certain other reputable site). And the GTX660ti which is more expensive than the GTX760. So basically the GTX680/670/660ti are all now stupidly priced. They are now pointless cards unless they drop in price, & im not buying the whole "its good for people wanting sli", you're getting overcharged.
We have the GTX770 released with 3rd party coolers because supposidly the Titan cooler costs more? Rubbish!. If this is true then why is it the GTX780 3rd party cooler designs cost more than the Titan cooler ones??? Further to this look at the Gigabyte GTX770 windforce, this card has the same 3x cooler
as the GTX780 3x cooler yet it is one of the cheapest GTX 770 prices going. How is this possible? Either the Titan cooler doesnt cost any extra or its clear that nvidia or retailers are ripping a new one. I guess because all the brands are releasing overclocked/3rd party cooler GTX770s they are not bothering to really charge a premium (rip off) price, whilst on the GTX780 gigabyte & EVGA with their "Cheaper" coolers are charging more compared to the "Expensive" stock titan cooler...hhhmmmm must be the overclocks. The same overclocks
which appear free on the gtx770 variety.
And again one has to wonder why the GTX780 gigabyte & EVGA cards commands premiums of £50+ in this country yet in the states its like 10$ (EVGA GTX780 ACX). Get the **** out! Thankfully as of today i notice one particular site has dropped their gigabyte 780 to £535 area. Still, as per the GTX770, if the titan cooler costs so much can you drop it further gigabyte/retailers?, after all, you're saving money using your own cooler...arent you??? Make up your minds.
Have to give credit to AMD for working with their drivers, dropping their prices, bundling games. Its a pity that as per the issue with the gtx680, I just don't feel the performance boost is quite there coming from a gtx580, especially as Ive waited so long i dont feel like cracking now but man the itch is bad. My only complaint is I wish AMD would at least hint
at what to expect from their next card, so that for us people sitting on the fence we can decide whether to just give up & buy whats available or wait. If they came out & just said "Expect GTX780 beating performance at a more reasonable price" then that would be enough to convince me to wait longer but I would hate to wait yet a further 3 months + for AMD to just do an nvidia & release another next gen card with a okish performance increase at a new higher stupid price going "Well they did it!".
Im a pc gamer, fps all the way for me. But can't say im impressed right now with these gpus. I have the money to buy a GTX780 right now & would love one but i refuse to pay the price that nvidia is milking. Its like ****ing cinema popcorn, we would all happily pay a bit of a premium but it gets to a stage when you just have to say "seriously? No!". Feels like their trying to drive people away to consoles. Sulk over, had to let off steam, its only my silly opinion. Apologies about the grammer. Feel free to mock away
.
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hopefully they will be cheaper and faster.
