Why do people call me racist?

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mjt said:
Why did you bring skin tone into it?

You're against the free movement of people within an area of free movement. Excellent.
As others have said, you're more of a xenophobic bigot rather than a racist.
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perhaps he suffers from xenophobia, if thats the case you calling him a bigot is you persecuting him because of a mental illness and to be honest thats just not nice is it!
 
badcompany said:
perhaps he suffers from xenophobia, if thats the case you calling him a bigot is you persecuting him because of a mental illness and to be honest thats just not nice is it!
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What are you talking about?

Oh, you're trying to be funny!
Go away and look up xenophobia in a dictionary, unless your webbed fingers prevent you from using books..
 
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Patient Keeper said:
How in the hell does people speaking different languages help social cohesion? How can that benefit society when people cant even communicate with eachother?
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I'd turn that around and ask how people speaking the same language helps? I live in a 99.99% white county in the UK, I've hardly had need to speak to anyone in the community other than close neighbours. Just because someone doesn't speak English doesn't mean they aren't a good member of the community. Likewise just because you can doesn't mean your an upstanding citizen does it?
 
Patient Keeper said:
You seriously think it is OK for immigrants to move to the UK and not speak English?
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In all fairness, when I lived abroad I couldn't speak arabic, apart from 'hello how are you?' and similar phrases. But the situation was different in many ways: even the rudest appearing peasant would talk to you in english, albeit broken english sometimes, so you never really got a chance to practise arabic, because everyone wanted to practice their english! lol

I think the key difference sometimes played upon by the media (DM etc) is the reluctance for some groups to accept our laws and respect our traditions of secularism and equality (such as they are), expecting their alien culture to take precedence over ours. I recall taking steps to not stand out (any more than was unavoidable lol) and abiding by Bahrain law and custom as was expected of a guest in a host country - 'when in rome' and all of that.
 
mjt said:
Why did you bring skin tone into it?

You're against the free movement of people within an area of free movement. Excellent.
As others have said, you're more of a xenophobic bigot rather than a racist.
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I brought it in because someone accused me of wanting people of each race to live together solely.
 
mjt said:
What are you talking about?

Oh, you're trying to be funny!
Go away and look up xenophobia in a dictionary, unless your webbed fingers prevent you from using books..
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clinical definition is:[clarification needed] An irrational fear of members of a certain race foreign to one's own, often adjunct and secondary to Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. Also: One of the attitude groupings characteristic of The Authoritarian Personality.[7] A Vietnam veteran witnessed Viet Cong skinning his fellow soldiers alive. He developed hatred of people with Mongol eyelids. In both cases, the xenophobia was adjunct to PTSD.[8]

A xenophobic person has to genuinely think or believe at some level that the target is in fact a foreigner. This arguably separates xenophobia from racism and ordinary prejudice in that someone of a different race does not necessarily have to be of a different nationality
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Look mum I can quote text from a web page How clever am I ? grow up you buffoon.

Grr you edited it.
 
jumpy said:
In all fairness, when I lived abroad I couldn't speak arabic, apart from 'hello how are you?' and similar phrases. But the situation was different in many ways: even the rudest appearing peasant would talk to you in english, albeit broken english sometimes, so you never really got a chance to practise arabic, because everyone wanted to practice their english! lol

I think the key difference sometimes played upon by the media (DM etc) is the reluctance for some groups to accept our laws and respect our traditions of secularism and equality (such as they are), expecting their alien culture to take precedence over ours. I recall taking steps to not stand out (any more than was unavoidable lol) and abiding by Bahrain law and custom as was expected of a guest in a host country - 'when in rome' and all of that.
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It generally isnt a problem when immigration is actually controlled, so it actually is just a 'minority'. But what we have now large numbers living in segregated areas. The more there are and the faster the rate of immigration the harder it is for anybody to integrate.
 
Brian8bit said:
Do tell me more.
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Tell me one place in Europe (or anywhere in the world for that matter), where segregation hasn't occured after a large influx of immigrants? Why do we have segregation in London, Blackburn, Oslo, Malmo, Berlin, Holland, and anywhere else you can think of. Actions speak much louder than words.

Tell me where it has worked then?
 
Oh yeah OP, here's a few things to mull around in the old noggin:

The Romans invaded this country about 2000 years ago. They mixed/diluted/contaminated (delete as appropriate) this country's population and genes.

This country was invaded by the saxons around 1500 years ago, again mixing in and settling with the population of this country.

Then, around 1000 years ago, the vikings invaded, again mixing and humping this country's population.

Let's not forget how the British empire went around to 30% of the world and started raping people and spreading its seed!

What do you think about multiculturalism now? For hundreds, if not thousands of years, this island has been one of the most multicultural places in the world!!
 
How to Diagnose Xenophobia (Fear of Strangers)
By an eHow Contributor


Imagine being completely afraid to go to the bank, the grocery store, or travel to a new country or city. People who suffer from xenophobia (a fear of strangers) are all too familiar with the anxiety provoking experience of being in the presence of people they do not know. Following are some steps to help you diagnose true xenophobia from a less severe form of social anxiety and begin the road to overcoming this pervasive and limiting mental disorder.

Difficulty: Moderate
Instructions

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Determine the severity of the fear to assess whether or not it is merely a fear or true xenophobia. Ask whether the person is afraid of strangers at homes or in familiar places, or if he is afraid of all strangers anywhere, anytime.
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Assess the severity of the fear while taking in factors that could influence a relatively normal fear of strange persons. Many people are afraid of walking into a situation and not knowing anyone, but panic does not ensue. Determine the duration or course of the symptoms by taking an inventory to discover if it has been pervasive for most of the person's life or if it is a relatively new fear.
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Introduce external stimuli that could cause an anxiety response such as bringing someone into the person's awareness who they are not familiar with, and have the person rate their anxiety level in the presence of the stranger. Objectively rate the person's response from your perspective and compare your ratings.
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Check for a rational explanation of the fear of strangers. In this case everything from kidnapping, rape or assault histories, a history of being mugged or robbed, or even being left with strangers as a child could invoke a powerful fear response to strangers. Phobic responses to outside individuals should be assessed with cultural norms as well. Some cultures are more prone to being distrusting of strangers, but phobia characteristics are not necessarily prevalent.
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Asses whether there are co-occurring disorders such as paranoid schizophrenia, panic disorder, social anxiety, agoraphobia or depression, which are very commonly mistaken for xenophobia. Determine whether the xenophobia could better be described by another mental health factor or extenuating feature such as a social anxiety disorder or perhaps a cultural norm such as being a cloistered monk or nun).
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Note whether the xenophobia is accompanied with ethnocentrism or fear of invasion, as many xenophobics have an irrational fear of foreigners or travelers. Note whether such an orientation is due to living in an environment of war or political takeover.
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LOL
 
I have no problem with allowing intelligent people in to the country that are going to be productive. But not too many and they should not be allowed to get the same benefits as people born in the uk.

I would say you are not racist but a cultural bigot. You like to keep the country exactly the same and don't like people that are not the same as you. I have no problem with people as long as they speak my language. I don't see why we should allow people in to the country that don't speak english.

A better question is why is every ******* corner shop run by an indian or similar ?

I have been in london for about 3 years now or maybe 4 and i have not seen one newsagent owned and ran by a white british person. maybe outside london it is more common,
 
Halfmad said:
We already have people "operating" under different laws or had you forgotten Scots Law? I wouldn't call you a racist, perhaps a misguided and ill-informed bigot, but not a racist. ;)
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This tbh... OP is just ignorant - we've been 'multicultural' in the UK for over a thousand years. I'd like the OP to give an example of a society in existence today (with very few immigrants) that 'works' better than a typical western democracy. Presumably if multicultural societies don't work there are some societies out there, for comparison, which do work?
 
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