Why do people pointlessly overtake?

Maccy said:
The fun of overtaking in a 54hp car - will I make it or won't I? You only live once!
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Lol! I have this joy several times a week in works combo van. Speed machine! :D

It depends how slow the person is driving I guess. If they're going very slow and braking at every bend I just get annoyed and will overtake them.

However if there's a massive queue waiting to overtake a lorry or something I'll hold back rather than go flying past lots of cars and getting up to silly speeds to do it quickly.

In my Clio i would pointless over take purely for the noise and acceleration. The S3 has calmed me down a lot and I don't find myself revving the knackers out of it as it sounds pants :o
 
Gibbo said:
Yes if on the rare occaison I am just cruising along slowly I will leave a considerable gap in front of me, normally that of a bus/truck length so if anyone did one to weave in and out and progress on they can do so safely.

There is nothing more annoying then those who say all close up behind a truck or tractor on a country road and have no intention of passing, meaning I have to overtake 8-12 cars in a row to clear them all.

The other time I keep well over is for bikers, if I spot a biker I give them plenty of room to pass me safely. I think the drivers who purposely hover in the middle of the road are absolute idiots and if I was the biker they were doing that too on my way past I'd be putting my boot in the idiots door. Then there is those who don't use their mirrors, a mate of mine has now been knocked of her bike 3 times now, thankfully never seriously hurt but using mirrors would not hurt.

When I used to commute to Manchester from Stoke daily which involved country roads and dual carriage-ways it was amazing the amount of selfish idiots you'd come across, I guess I can be impatient but when coming off a roundabout why do so many insist on coming off in the fast lane when slow lane is empty and then proceed to sit their at 50mph? Maybe it was bad of me but if I was behind and after a short while they still had not moved I'd either undertake, flash my lights for them to move over or just drive on their bumper. I just get the feeling some people see a half decent car behind them and get some kind of pleasure at trying to hold them up.....
All it does is just make me more determined to get past, drive dangerously and take risk to get past the idiot. Or eventually they move over, you pass and they give you the headlights, which never goes down well with me, it normally ends in my slamming my brakes on in front of them, stupid I know, but its amazing how we all turn into barbariens once behind a wheel. :D
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So wait a second, people driving inconsiderately for bikers are scum, yet tailgating cos you can't get somewhere fast enough, overtaking and then stamping on the brakes and other dangerous and inconsiderate behaviour is acceptable. Vile hypocrite.
 
Lots of reasons.

1. They are travelling slower than I wish to cruise.
2. They are driving irratically and I just want to be out of harms way
3. They have their foglights on
4. Because further on down the road there will be something going even slower(e.g caravan/tractor) which will need to be overtaken and so there's one lesss car in the queue when I get there.

So long as it's done safely it does'nt hurt anyone so why make the fuss?

What does annoy is when people try and block you, speed up, or otherwise make the manuver more dangerous just because you have the temerity to want to drive faster than they do.

The key words to do with overtaking is safely. I did an IAM course a few years ago and the way they recommend to overtake is very good. Instead of getting close, then swooping around them you stay back a little, pull out, take a good look and then accelerate past them. That way if theres something you missed you can slot right back in rather than having nowhere to go with the 'zoom' method.
 
lovedaddy said:
So wait a second, people driving inconsiderately for bikers are scum, yet tailgating cos you can't get somewhere fast enough, overtaking and then stamping on the brakes and other dangerous and inconsiderate behaviour is acceptable. Vile hypocrite.
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Yes they are scum.

Sorry but people who think its OK to come off a roundabout on a dual carriage-way with national speed limit and sit in the fast lane with nothing in the slow lane are just selfish idiots.

Whats wrong with them pulling over, or looking in their mirrors, why do they insist on staying in that lane. Oh yes of course it because 2 miles down the road they will be turning right at the next roundabout so yes of course its fine for them to sit at 50mph and hold me up.

If they did this and progressed at the speed limit I'd be perfectly happy, or if other vehicles were in the slow lane then fine. But when they just sit their holding me up are they not the selfish ones?

Why should I have to tailgate, flash my lights to get them to see me? Or why is it that once they do see me they eventually move over, I pass them and they think its perfectly acceptable to give me a dose of full beam. Them not been able to understand the high-way code, is what causes issues. Giving me full beam because they were in the wrong well yeah I will admit I've slammed my brakes on, we all have bad days. I am quite a patient driver and will hang back quite a bit expecting them to eventually move over but some don't and well I don't fancy travelling at 2/3rds of the speed limit and braking un-necessary for every roundabout they might approach and as such I will become a very wide car in their mirrors. I also drive a slow 306, its not that quick and if something faster comes up behind me I simply move over, it does not bother me, but it seems many people dislike to be overtaken or are just jealous of people with faster cars.

If people don't want to be overtaken then I say two options, stay in at home or drive to the speed limits. Sorry but I want to drive at my pace and have a nice smooth drive. I don't want to be braking every 2 minutes because the idiot in front can't read the road.
 
If there is a way through.. I take it Andy.
Can't be arsed to wait behind them or flash my lights at them to move over.
Take the inside lane, go past them with a "WTF are you doing look" from the left hand lane and be on my way without issue.

Momentum is what it's about in my little tin shed, so I take no prisoners on my way to work. :D

If I put the in car cam and microphone into the 106 it would be put on police camera action or something, most of the audio would be Bleeeeeeeeep
 
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Scubascorpion said:
If there is a way through.. I take it Andy.
Can't be arsed to wait behind them or flash my lights at them to move over.
Take the inside lane, go past them with a "WTF are you doing look" from the left hand lane and be on my way without issue.

Momentum is what it's about in my little tin shed, so I take no prisoners on my way to work. :D

If I put the in car cam and microphone into the 106 it would be put on police camera action or something, most of the audio would be Bleeeeeeeeep
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Hi m8

To be honest most of the time I will but I am always aware as these are the kind of people who clearly don't know how to use mirrors.

You still got the 106 rallye or just a bog standard 106 now?
 
Gibbo said:
Hi m8

To be honest most of the time I will but I am always aware as these are the kind of people who clearly don't know how to use mirrors.

You still got the 106 rallye or just a bog standard 106 now?
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Rallye sold, this is the 1.5 non turbo "wouldn't pull your foreskin back" diesel model.
 
Gibbo said:
Hi m8

To be honest most of the time I will but I am always aware as these are the kind of people who clearly don't know how to use mirrors.
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Oh yea you have to be on your toes about it.

Quite often you will get the opposite..
Car in front indicates to take same slip road as me.
I'm catching up with car in front.
Car takes slip road and keeps left with left indicator on.
I enter slip road at a shallower angle so as to be in the right hand lane straight away.
All but level with car that was in front now (him in left lane, me in right)
I'm starting to think about what is coming round the roundabout to my right..
Now the left lane car decides he wants to go right and tries to carve me up.
So now I'm left with both having to judge what he is playing at as well as if I can slingshot onto the roundabout without stopping.
 
Scubascorpion said:
Oh yea you have to be on your toes about it.

Quite often you will get the opposite..
Car in front indicates to take same slip road as me.
I'm catching up with car in front.
Car takes slip road and keeps left with left indicator on.
I enter slip road at a shallower angle so as to be in the right hand lane straight away.
All but level with car that was in front now (him in left lane, me in right)
I'm starting to think about what is coming round the roundabout to my right..
Now the left lane car decides he wants to go right and tries to carve me up.
So now I'm left with both having to judge what he is playing at as well as if I can slingshot onto the roundabout without stopping.
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Not good and with a 106 I can imagine its not to easy to get out of their way or away from them. :(
 
It yaws about a lot but hangs on pretty well actually. Surprising how far you can chuck it without it biting you in the ass. Once the speed has dropped off though, it's game over.

The twice it has happened so far it's been a case of brake, let him cut in, move over to where he was in the left lane, slingshot onto the roundabout while he is still braking, then move back over to the right lane with a smirk
 
Gibbo said:
Yes they are scum.

Sorry but people who think its OK to come off a roundabout on a dual carriage-way with national speed limit and sit in the fast lane with nothing in the slow lane are just selfish idiots.

Whats wrong with them pulling over, or looking in their mirrors, why do they insist on staying in that lane. Oh yes of course it because 2 miles down the road they will be turning right at the next roundabout so yes of course its fine for them to sit at 50mph and hold me up.

If they did this and progressed at the speed limit I'd be perfectly happy, or if other vehicles were in the slow lane then fine. But when they just sit their holding me up are they not the selfish ones?

Why should I have to tailgate, flash my lights to get them to see me? Or why is it that once they do see me they eventually move over, I pass them and they think its perfectly acceptable to give me a dose of full beam. Them not been able to understand the high-way code, is what causes issues. Giving me full beam because they were in the wrong well yeah I will admit I've slammed my brakes on, we all have bad days. I am quite a patient driver and will hang back quite a bit expecting them to eventually move over but some don't and well I don't fancy travelling at 2/3rds of the speed limit and braking un-necessary for every roundabout they might approach and as such I will become a very wide car in their mirrors. I also drive a slow 306, its not that quick and if something faster comes up behind me I simply move over, it does not bother me, but it seems many people dislike to be overtaken or are just jealous of people with faster cars.

If people don't want to be overtaken then I say two options, stay in at home or drive to the speed limits. Sorry but I want to drive at my pace and have a nice smooth drive. I don't want to be braking every 2 minutes because the idiot in front can't read the road.
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???

Surely you just move to the inside lane and accelerate up to the speed limit?
Why would you sit in the outside lane behind them on an empty dual carriage way doing 50mph when its perfectly legal for you to sit in the left hand lane and pass them on the inside at the speed limit?
 
why should he do a undertake that is a bit grey area (most coppers will see it as a undertake and do you for dangerous driving), when the person hogging lane 2 should just move in and continue at his own pace?

I know passing on the left in traffic is fine but undertaking is not.
 
Mucky_Pup said:
There's no guidlines for passing traffic on the left and undertaking though, so it's a serious grey area.
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Highway Code rule 268 advises against undertaking on a motorway: "Do not overtake on the left or move to a lane on your left to overtake"[4]. On other roads you can "only overtake on the left if the vehicle in front is signalling to turn right" (rule 163). On all roads, undertaking is permitted if the vehicles in the lane to the right are queueing and slow moving.[5] Undertaking in an aggressive or reckless manner could be considered Careless Driving or more seriously Dangerous Driving, both of which are legally enforceable offences.
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http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_069862
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070314
 
Gibbo said:
... If people don't want to be overtaken then I say two options, stay in at home or drive to the speed limits. ...
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One frequently reads here and on other forums that speed is not the cause of accidents, injuries and fatalities but that people driving outside their limits or too fast for the conditions are the cause of the problems and yet here you are, demanding that anyone who dares to get into a car and drive should do so "to the speed limits".

Have you considered the possibility that some people may be driving within their limits or at what they consider to be an appropriate speed for the conditions - sensibly in fact :confused:


I do most sincerely hope that you are not as impatient and intolerant as your post makes you out to be.
 
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