Why do people pointlessly overtake?

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Ok I work in a small town thats about 13 miles away from where I live. The vast majority of this journey is a single carriageway road that connects the two towns. Its busy most of the time but particularly commuter hours since people travel from one town to the other.

Its also fairly rural so you get farmers etc at times using the same road.

Its got 40mph at both ends and a small stretch of 40mph towards one end, rest is normal "60 mph" stuff. Its got some bendy bits and some long (2 mile plus straights).

Hopefully that sets the scene ;)

Its also a regular for accidents, and I mean probably twice a month there will be a "proper incident" either closing the road in one/both directions or causing a serious delay.

So why do people have to overtake when its just not going to get them any significant reduction in journey time? I just do not get the thought process (or lack of imo) to overtake unless its clearly going to speed you along.

E.g last night I caught up to a chain of 3 cars following a lorry, who incidentally was making good progress, he wasn't hanging about. A minute or so later a blue 306 diesel catches me up who was clearly doing more like 70-80 than 60. He weaves a few times and eventually forces his way past me and swerves in front of me to avoid oncoming lorry :eek:. Then sits in front of me for the rest of the journey, looking for a way past the car infront.
He put himself and me at risk overtaking for a gain of 20 feet of tarmac, he was clearly never going to get past all the cars and the lorry before we got to the 40 limit, as it was he gained nothing more than overtaking me and eventually went straight on at the end of the road when I turned right.

Its one of them roads thats just always going to catch you out, I have overtaken lorries etc myself when they are going slow and sooner or later you always seem to catch something else going slow, its too busy a road to expect to be able to get from end to end at a decent rate without interruption, yet people seem to have to keep trying to overtake. I have yet to see anyone overtake me who isnt within a car or two at the end of this piece of road, gaining them what, 10 seconds?

Any thoughts?, oh and sorry just wanted to get that off my chest ;) , spent a wasted hour stuck last week on friday night whilst the police and ambulance sorted what was clearly an overtaking maneauver gone wrong.
(Lots of yellow paint and skid marks from wrong side of road to right still exist)
 
I don't like getting stuck behind lorries and vans where I cannot see the road ahead very well, plus nothing beats the thrill of knocking down a couple of cogs and hearing the sound my car makes and feeling the acceleration it provides:D
 
I don't like looking at the fat guy in the car behind me so I will repeatably perform dangerous overtakes until there is a nice lass behind me.

Either that or the person in front drives like a moron - braking for no reason, slowing down on hills etc...
 
Depends on the road. If my journey is long, then I want to overtake people to get there quicker *IF* they are going slow.

Just because they overtake doesn't mean it's dangerous to, but clearly in this case you described it was pointless and and dangerous.

For example, I had to dash to gatwick one day when my wife missed her flight from Plymouth due to being sick on the way to the airport. I had to stop and grab a GPS unit from the folks, then get quickly to gatwick before she missed her flight (she HAD to go as her visa was running out). Believe me, I did not hang around, but also, I did not overtake when it was not necessary. Some people have places to go.

EDIT: I live in an area where lorries are one about every 30 seconds, on country roads, so I'm used to overtaking them, safely, so will do so if I have somewhere to be. Otherwise I will just chill knowing it doesn't make that much difference.
 
Simple really.

Because its boring being stuck behind the same slow Kia pride or whatever.

Even if it doesnt gain you any time, pulling out and nailing it, generating a large amount of V8 noise (if you have one) and getting a change of view (the car infront) is still better than sitting like a robot drone behind the same person for hrs on end.
 
Yeah, i was with my dad when we went past this woman in some crappy Korean thing, weaving about, well under the speed limit, she then caught us up and cut us off! So we flew infront, gave her some of her own medicine :)
 
Yeah, i was with my dad when we went past this woman in some crappy Korean thing, weaving about, well under the speed limit, she then caught us up and cut us off! So we flew infront, gave her some of her own medicine :)

Man you're cool!
 
I've been known to overtake because the person in front is driving like a muppet, and I'd rather not be involved in their accident, or because they are incapable of taking corners in an appropriate manner and therefore play havoc with my fuel consumption through lots of unnecessary braking and acceleration.

Plus there's the fun factor of the look on people's faces when the passat behind them suddenly flies past with a rather uncharacteristic V6 growl :D
 
Yeah, i was with my dad when we went past this woman in some crappy Korean thing, weaving about, well under the speed limit, she then caught us up and cut us off! So we flew infront, gave her some of her own medicine :)

lol nice one!

Hope u gave her the ol' keep spraying your windscreen with water treatment.

Really annoys folks behind!
 
I don't like getting stuck behind lorries and vans where I cannot see the road ahead very well, plus nothing beats the thrill of knocking down a couple of cogs and hearing the sound my car makes and feeling the acceleration it provides:D

[TW]Fox;17151945 said:
Overtaking is fun.

I don't like looking at the fat guy in the car behind me so I will repeatably perform dangerous overtakes until there is a nice lass behind me.

Either that or the person in front drives like a moron - braking for no reason, slowing down on hills etc...

Ok too many I agree with to quote all. Fox summary win. Overtaking is fun. There's one stretch on my commute where sometimes it's possible to overtake. I'll be in a queue another mile down the road, odds on with the person directly behind me. It's not always about getting there quicker. Normally I prefer to drive at my own pace, if the woman in front is using no more than 5mm of throttle travel and is a nervous braker then I'll go past if safe.

So there's lots of answers to your thread title question. If you'd asked "Why do people dangerously overtake" then the bits about idiots, misjudging etc would be what you're after.
 
I've realised after many years that some people are just in more of a rush then others..

What I do if I'm in a small train of cars behind a lorry, and aren't too fussed about overtaking, and someone comes up behind my in an obvious rush, I just leave enough gap so they can safely overtake me, and if the other slower cars play ball, he'll do a succession of safe small overtakes, eventually get by the lorry, and off they go.. Experience has taught me that it's ten times easier to do that, then have them making a much more dangerous multicar overtake because they don't have anywhere to easily drop back in to, and no matter how dangerous I think there actions are, my thoughts won't actually stop them doing it anyway..

And I've been in situations where I wanted to press on and people where sat like lemmings behind a slow lorry, all bunched up, none overtaking where there is ample safe room on occasion to do so, and it's all a little frustrating, hence why if I'm one of those happy to not overtake slower cars, I usually am more accomodating.
 
I've realised after many years that some people are just in more of a rush then others..

What I do if I'm in a small train of cars behind a lorry, and aren't too fussed about overtaking, and someone comes up behind my in an obvious rush, I just leave enough gap so they can safely overtake me, and if the other slower cars play ball, he'll do a succession of safe small overtakes, eventually get by the lorry, and off they go.. Experience has taught me that it's ten times easier to do that, then have them making a much more dangerous multicar overtake because they don't have anywhere to easily drop back in to, and no matter how dangerous I think there actions are, my thoughts won't actually stop them doing it anyway..

And I've been in situations where I wanted to press on and people where sat like lemmings behind a slow lorry, all bunched up, none overtaking where there is ample safe room on occasion to do so, and it's all a little frustrating, hence why if I'm one of those happy to not overtake slower cars, I usually am more accomodating.

Heh, it must be quiet rare that everyone else leaves the gap too, at least it is in my experience, both being the overtaker and watching someone else try to make progress.
 
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