Why Do You Prefer TN Over IPS ?

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Quite a few people I know buy TN panels over IPS and their reasons come down to "Can't really tell that much of a difference and TN is cheaper" and "TN just feels better" but I'm curious as to what others think ?
 
I have both side by side, a 27" IPS 1440p and a 24" TN 1080p, the difference in colour reproduction is crazy, also the viewing angles.

When i get my new monitor (40" VA 4k) I will keep the IPS as a second screen and pass the TN on to a family member.

TN I believe are better for fast paced games than IPS, but for the stuff I play IPS wins hands down over the TN
 
I have a Rog swift next to an overclocked DGM 1440 IPS, they both have small issues if you go looking for them, where as the TN can colour shift if you move your head up and down, the DGM has issues in the corners, particularly on darker content and as I mainly play dark games in a darkened room (not pitch black but e.g. Curtains drawn in day time), I find the Rog better colours wise for that type of viewing

Then add to that, every IPS I've tried (as well as VA and even other TN's) are not a patch on the Rog for motion clarity. I couldn't go back to motion blur.
 
Never found an IPS or similar panel with the responsiveness and motion clarity of a good gaming TN.

I have the Swift side by side with a Dell 21:9 IPS and there is a fair difference but I wouldn't say the Swift looks outclassed colours/iq wise (aslong as you are looking at it dead on and don't mind a little top to bottom gamma shift).
 
Coming from CRT 100Hz Trinitrons, even fast TNs were a blurry mess for me.
But as years passed, I got used to the blur and I now favour colour accuracy over speed as I spend most of my time with static images - reading - programming, etc
But even when gaming, IPS just gives you a much more vivid image, so no contest there, if done right.
And I might pounce on 165Hz IPS from Asus, which, in theory has almost none of the downsides of IPS...
 
Tried IPS screens - never again - couldn't put up with the glow/bleed.

Swift was awesome apart from the slight colour shift - wish I'd never sold it.:(

Now using a Philips 40" 4K VA panel and very happy with it.:)

But if I could get a faultless Swift I would
 
I loved my 144hz TN panel right up until I stopped caring about being good at FPS games. With ULMB on it was amazing. But now I've switched back to my IPS panel and fallen in love with that again. The colours are much richer and the overall picture quality is much better, adding to the immersion for me.

I'm fortunate that my old Hazro is near perfect, no dead pixels, no blacklight bleed and only a tiny amount of glow. But with the QA issues of current IPS panels I'm thinking my next monitor will probably be a VA panel.
 
TBH, you can't compare 60HZ IPS and TN 144HZ, you need to compare 144HZ IPS to 144HZ and then it is a fair test at which point the difference for motion clarity is negligible but the difference in viewing angles and rich popping colours, better clarity (more so because all these TN panels use a heavy matte finish therefore have a grainy look) etc. is noticeable.

60HZ IPS VS 144HZ TN is awful for motion clarity though.
 
andybird123 said:
I have a Rog swift next to an overclocked DGM 1440 IPS, they both have small issues if you go looking for them, where as the TN can colour shift if you move your head up and down, the DGM has issues in the corners, particularly on darker content and as I mainly play dark games in a darkened room (not pitch black but e.g. Curtains drawn in day time), I find the Rog better colours wise for that type of viewing

Then add to that, every IPS I've tried (as well as VA and even other TN's) are not a patch on the Rog for motion clarity. I couldn't go back to motion blur.
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I think Andy covers this quite well, I had the swift next to an overclocked Korean and while both had pros and cons, the swift won out and the other got sold.
 
I think for most people the downside to IPS is the glow and BLB issues that are plaguing every single premium IPS monitor available today... and actually, between them, they only share a about 3 panels across about ten monitors!! Therein lies the problem. IPS could be so much better... actually, it WAS better years ago, but seems to have gone backwards for reasons unknown. An ATW Polarizer would certainly solve the glow issue, and BLB seems to invariably be caused by bezels being fitted too tight. If they can fix these things with newer panels, and as a final nail in the TN coffin bump that response time up a notch, IPS will be the clear winner. If you NEED colour accuracy for professional work though, there is no choice but IPS... TN just doesn't cut it. For gaming, it's whatever your preference is really... you really need to try both to figure out what you like best.
 
Here's the problem.
a 5 ms IPS monitor is just as fast as a 1 ms GtG TN monitor.
The only reason TN monitors are faster are due to having a far more aggressive overdrive circuit. Yes TN monitors currently are slightly faster than most IPS panels but that is changing. But there are a few words of common sense, and PCM2 or Simon (Badass) can correct me if Im wrong:

1) the response time of a panel can NOT exceed its refresh rate (1000 divided by refresh rate) in milliseconds without an overdrive circuit.

2) Therefore an IPS with 5ms response time can be JUST as fast as a TN with 1 ms response time and look BETTER. Why?

Because the TN most likely has a far too aggressive overdrive circuit, pushing response times lower at the expense of RTA artifacts.

Badass's review of the XB270HU showed how the slightly lower response time of the panel manifested itself into having almost no overdrive artifacts in ULMB mode, while the "faster" ROG Swift was flooded with them.
 
You say that (and while there is some truth to it) the reality is if I mirror a game on my Swift and any of my IPS/PLS panels beside it (with all processing, etc. and gaming mode enabled on the Dell, etc.) there is a huge difference in the clarity in motion when tracking an object - infact the Dell U2913wm despite having 8ms G2G on paper is actually better than some of the 4-5ms rated panels but still far short of the gaming TNs I have regardless of overdrive settings.

The U2913WM is actually surprisingly good at recovering from quick view changes - big change in pixel values and it recovers incredibly quickly and I can't tell the difference in a fast 180 degree view flick between it and the Swift but trying to follow something in motion with more moderate pixel value changes its not even in the same ballpark.
 
It's a pity plasma has gone away as the response times were down to 0.01ms (they did tend to have high input lag unless they had a game mode though being mostly TVs) in the last generations. Great contrast, blacks and consistency. Anyway for me VA panels are currently the better all round choice if you don't need super accurate colours of a decent IPS.

It was only when I had the older Asus VG278 144Hz TN next to the current VA based panel that I realised how much light bleed and poor contrast it had in reality. Despite it being super smooth in actual games I could live with the 60 fps on the VA for it's all round capability as I watch films as much as play games on it.
 
bimbleuk said:
It's a pity plasma has gone away as the response times were down to 0.01ms (they did tend to have high input lag unless they had a game mode though being mostly TVs) in the last generations. Great contrast, blacks and consistency. Anyway for me VA panels are currently the better all round choice if you don't need super accurate colours of a decent IPS.
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No big loss for monitors really, it was not a suitable technology for such screens. The pixels are gas-filled chambers and could only get down to a certain size and resolution (not suitable for monitors really). Plus the gasses can be seen to flicker if viewing from close up, so it was definitely one for TVs rather than monitors. OLED is a superior technology that should one day be suitable for both TVs and monitors, so plasma has had its day.
 
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