Why is my frame rate and frame time so unstable in every game?

ConorJDavies · 26 Oct 2019 at 15:48

Hello, now I have fps drops in every single game even though I have replaced everything possible inside my PC. I have no weird things installed on my PC either, all I have is your usual game launchers and nothing else, everything is also fully updated yet, I still get constant stuttering in every single game, what exactly could be causing this? My temps are fine too, I have also reinstalled Windows a few times and that never helped.

Here is a video of some gameplay of The Outer Worlds, again, it's like this in every game, this is just an example. Just looking at the frame rate and frame time graph, you can see how unstable it is, and it honestly feels like crap to play, and again, sorry to repeat myself but its like this for every game, even Minecraft.

SPECS:

Intel i7-7700K
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
ASUS MAXIMUS IX HERO
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz
Corsair RM850x PSU
Corsair Hydro 100i RGB Platinum Liquid CPU Cooler
Samsung 970 EVO 500GB SSD NVMe M.2
Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB SSD
ASUS PG278QR ROG SWIFT 27" 1440p 144hz

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 07:17

Efour said:
Have a look at this
https://www.sweetwater.com/sweetcare/articles/solving-dpc-latency-issues/

it might be relevant. Ive had issues with it on a 1070 and 2080.

Ignore it if everything is peachy.

I mentioned in my post that I have replaced everything, I only just got the 2080 and it was doing it with my 1080 too.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 13:58

Efour said:
Ok?
Well did you even try that? Takes like 30s.

Well if you have this problem between 2 whole new computers look for stupid things like DP cables or the monitor being the issue.

Any hardware you carried across must be the cause.... It's unfortunate but good luck.

You are gonna have to specifically say the old hardware Vs the new hardware.

Same PSU? Got a spare to try?

The answer is sitting on your desk somewhere.

Yes, I have tried it in the past and tried it again after the first seeing your response, no issues were found.
I have tried different cables too, I have probably tried at least four different DP cables and I have tried three different monitors, no difference.
And all the hardware has been replaced, some multiple times.

This is my previous build:
Intel Core i5-7600K
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080
Asus PRIME Z270-K
16GB DDR4 2133MHz
Corsair CX750M PSU
AOC G2460PF 24" 1080p 144hz
(I also had a CPU cooler, I just can not remember which one)

My current build:
Intel i7-7700K
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER
ASUS MAXIMUS IX HERO
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz
Corsair RM850x PSU
Corsair Hydro 100i RGB Platinum Liquid CPU Cooler
Samsung 970 EVO 500GB SSD NVMe M.2
Samsung 860 EVO 1 TB SSD
ASUS PG278QR ROG SWIFT 27" 1440p 144hz

Now, I could be forgetting something but I can gurentee you that everything possible has been replaced. I understand that it makes no sense that the issue is still happening, but it is.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:26

Bounce said:
when did you upgrade>?

Over the span of like a year, I first replaced the

Bounce said:
when did you upgrade>?

Over the span of like a year, I first got a new case with a new motherboard, CPU, PSU, CPU cooler, nothing changed. I then changed the RAM, nothing, I changed the PSU again, nothing again. I then completely changed the motherboard and CPU again to some AMD one, that did not help, I went back to the previous motherboard and CPU. I tested different GPU's. I upgraded to a 1440p monitor hoping it was my previous monitor causing it, nope. I changed the SSD like three times, no change. I have tested different RAM. I have basically tested every single component of my PC and nothing helped...

I have tried different PSU's
I have tried different CPU's...
GPU's
Motherboards
SSD's
HDD's
RAM
CPU coolers

You get the point, I have replaced all parts multiple times and the issue always remains, and what annoys me is that makes no sense and nothing I do fixes it, no matter how many stress tests or benchmarks I do, my PC is apparently fine.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:26

Efour said:
Yep this is weird, maybe its you at fault

No idea, why that would be the case, the PC has been part together correctly.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:27

Efour said:
Gsync, do you use it?

Yes, I have GSync on right now and still get the issues, turning it off also does not help.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:34

Webzta said:
Nvme drive temps?

I do not know about my main drive, but the SSD that I have my games on is usually around 30 °C.

Bounce said:
Do a userbenchmark posts the results here lets see this baby run?

https://www.userbenchmark.com/

https://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/21277190

The only thing that is "Performing below expectations" is the SSD's, but I doubt that is the cause as I have tested so many SSDs/HDDs in the past and games still ran badly.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:36

Efour said:
Do you have a programmable keyboard for macros. Say a g910 ?.

Any games you can disconnect m and kb. Try with a pad?

Nope, but I did get the G513 CARBON a few days ago. And I have tested with just a controller, in fact I did that yesterday when playing The Outer Worlds and it did not help.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:39

Bounce said:
Nothing obvious that sticks out, the only thing id try is resetting the bios to defaults.

Looks like your ram is running at 3200mhz which is an overclock, try resetting it to stock and see how it runs.

Already done both.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:48

Efour said:
Ok so absolutely realistically

The only things that are the same.....

Your router network connection. Rj45 cable or Wireless connection. ISP.
Your physical power outlet.

There is nothing else to compare..... How these can realistically cause your issues? I have no idea.

Trust me, I wish I knew. I have even tested the outlets, I used a voltage reader and everything was fine there too. And I doubt its the internet because I have tested it without even being connected.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:49

Efour said:
Ok so absolutely realistically

The only things that are the same.....

Your router network connection. Rj45 cable or Wireless connection. ISP.
Your physical power outlet.

There is nothing else to compare..... How these can realistically cause your issues? I have no idea. If you ever find a fix please say what it was.

Just look how bad it can be. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHCvDavbuq0

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:57

Bounce said:
Initially it looks bad but from 2.00 minutes on wards it stops...Have you tried using MSI afterburner to monitor CPU/GPU usage?

Maybe windows updates is installing something in the background?

Yes, the drops might stop but it still feels like complete ***** to play. Every single game stutters and feels like ****. Its kind of hard to see, but there is a little symbol to the right of the screen, that logo means low fps, it is there for the whole video. It might look good for you because its just a video locked at 60fps, but when you actually play it for yourself, it feels like complete crap and does not feel smooth one bit, every single game.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 14:59

Bounce said:
Initially it looks bad but from 2.00 minutes on wards it stops...Have you tried using MSI afterburner to monitor CPU/GPU usage?

Maybe windows updates is installing something in the background?

You can even see another big drop at around 2:20 in the video, I shouldn't be getting fps drops and stuttering in every single game with the build that I have. That is the point I am trying to make.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 15:09

Bounce said:
I understand your frustration, if you have tried everything, I can only come to a conclusion that its faulty hardware.

Yeah, sorry if I am coming off as rude. It's just really annoying, I have spent thousands in total, replacing parts over and over and nothing ever works. I can't see how it's faulty hardware as again, everything has been replaced so many times.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 15:25

Webzta said:
What if you play offline games?

It still happens. Its nothing to do with the internet.

ConorJDavies · 28 Oct 2019 at 15:28

SonicSW20 said:
In the Battlefield example you are experiencing severe packet loss:

That will cause the issues you are describing in that title and many other online titles.

The "packet loss" symbol appears at the start and then goes away. It's normal because I just joined the game, it has always done that. The red "low fps" symbol, on the other hand, is always there in the video. My internet is fine, that is not the cause as it still does it when disconnected from the internet.

ConorJDavies · 29 Oct 2019 at 10:16

Quartz said:
There've been recent threads about similar problems saying that the control software (iCUE / Corsairlink) for this is the cause.

I don't have any of those programs installed. So, it's not that either.

ConorJDavies · 31 Oct 2019 at 12:26

greatash said:
CPU bottleneck would be my guess, especially in BFV a quad core is not going to cut it with a 2080S

BFV uses 90%+ of all 12 threads on my ryzen 2600 with a vega 56

I don't think so, the 7700k is more than enough, and my friend has the exact same CPU with the exact same GPU and has zero problems. Plus, I had a GTX 1080 before and it did the same thing with the CPU, I don't think the CPU is the issue here. And again, its not just Battlefield V. Its every single game, even Minecraft is unplayable, I am not expert but the i7 7700k is more than enough.