Why is this taking so long?

Buchanan0204 · 18 Jan 2011 at 17:17

Hi there,

I received my new samsung blu ray drive in the post today around 3pm. I decided to test it out by ripping a blu ray (geuine retail copy) onto my hard drive using MakeMkv. However it is taking an age to rip. I have heard people saying it is only taking an hour at the most to rip. I originally tried ripping it to my storage drive, a Samsung 1TB. This was taking a very long time to rip, giving me an ETA of around 13-17 hours. This is ridiculous for a straight rip without compression.

I then thought to myself, perhaps with my drive being encrypted, (bit locker) It's taking a longer time, I then tried to rip it to a folder on my Raid0 SSD's C:
This was taking a few hours less, initally starting at 3 hours, then getting slower up until 9-10 hours.

So that eliminated the encryption being the problem.

I have no idea what could be causing this? Have you? Could the drive be faulty perhaps?

The drive I am using is this one here. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CD-138-SA&groupid=701&catid=10&subcat=314

mattyfez · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:21

I'm just throwing some ideas. . I've never ripped blu ray before..

My first guess would be the software, is it multi threaded for quad cores?

Tried different software for comparison of speed?

The drive is pysicaly working as it's getting on with it.. maybe an i/o issue, would it make much difference between SATA and SATA II? I'm not sure how much bandwidth these things can use...

BloodyL · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:29

Is the read rate always that low?, if so, something is very broken somewhere.
Try using a trial version of AnyDVDHD and see how long that takes to rip.
If it is still slow then that rules out the ripping software.

james.miller · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:33

mattyfez said:
The drive is pysicaly working as it's getting on with it.. maybe an i/o issue, would it make much difference between SATA and SATA II? I'm not sure how much bandwidth these things can use...

a damn sight more than the 25k he's getting in that screenshot

its a 12x speed, it should be reading at around 50-54MB/sec and taking no longer than 15-20minutes to rip.

but yeah, try the trial of anydvd HD. try another disc as well.

Buchanan0204 · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:34

BloodyL said:
Is the read rate always that low?, if so, something is very broken somewhere.
Try using a trial version of AnyDVDHD and see how long that takes to rip.
If it is still slow then that rules out the ripping software.

I have Anydvd HD installed. However I didn't realise this was a software for ripping. I thought it was to remove copy protection?

james.miller · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:38

Buchanan0204 said:
I have Anydvd HD installed. However I didn't realise this was a software for ripping. I thought it was to remove copy protection?

MakeMKV tell you not to rip the disc if anydvd is also running. disable it or rip it with anydvd first. its probably a good idea to read the instructions for both as well.

Meatball · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:41

Try using MakeMKV WITHOUT AnyDVD-HD. MakeMKV can remove the copy protection on Blu-Rays without the need of AnyDVD. The maker of MakeMKV actually recommends you use MakeMKV without having AnyDVD-HD in the background as it slows things down.

EDIT: beaten to it by james.miller

mattyfez · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:46

Something else to consider... the software reporting may not be accurate.. you didn't mention if you have physically timed a full rip from start to finish..

BloodyL · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:47

mattyfez said:
Something else to consider... the software reporting may not be accurate.. you didn't mention if you have physically timed a full rip from start to finish..

Ripping a 25Gb Bluray at 25Kb per second? I don't fancy timing that.

mattyfez · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:52

as a side note, (sorry to spam the thread) my gpu is hdcp, but my monitor is not. Does this make any difference and if so, is there a workaround? My monitor is 1080, so I assumed it would be but it's not

BloodyL · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:54

Yes, it makes a difference, and that is where AnyDVDHD comes in, not only does it strip the copy protection and allow you to rip the movie, it'll also disable HDCP, I *have* to use AnyDVDHD if I want to play a physical disc on my PC, as like yourself, my monitor pre-dates HDCP whereas my GFX card has it.

AtticusFinch · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:56

Karma - for being a naughty boy and ripping DVDs without the copyright holder's permission?

Buchanan0204 · 18 Jan 2011 at 18:59

james.miller said:
MakeMKV tell you not to rip the disc if anydvd is also running. disable it or rip it with anydvd first. its probably a good idea to read the instructions for both as well.

There's not exactly a great deal to read with regards to MakeMKV. It's a pretty simple program with a only a few settings.

When I said I had AnyDVD HD installed, I never stated that I had it running when attempting to rip the dvd using MakeMKV, like you said the software prompts you to close it, stating like you did, that it can decrypt it on its own.

mattyfez · 18 Jan 2011 at 19:01

BloodyL said:
Ripping a 25Gb Bluray at 25Kb per second? I don't fancy timing that.

Hmm, lol, fair point! Hahaha! I didn't actually bother looking at the screen shot, I just read the bit about "it should take an hour but it says 17!"

I am a bad person. Note to self: "stop skim reading!".

Buchanan0204 · 18 Jan 2011 at 19:02

mattyfez said:
Something else to consider... the software reporting may not be accurate.. you didn't mention if you have physically timed a full rip from start to finish..

Like someone already mentioned. I dont fancy timing it. You can see the green progress bar moving along very slowly, it was very clear the time it was giving was accurate.

Buchanan0204 · 18 Jan 2011 at 19:09

A little update:

I have reinstalled MakeMkv and tried it again. It intially starts reading the disc at around 8-9 MB/s Then slows right down again.

I also started the rip with anydvd and it goes the exact same way. Tells me initially 75mins, then goes up to silly hours.

two seperate programs, doing the same thing. Am I missing something major?

Surely it can't be a faulty drive, can it?

mattyfez · 18 Jan 2011 at 19:14

AtticusFinch said:
Karma - for being a naughty boy and ripping DVDs without the copyright holder's permission?

To be fair, the consumer doesn't have much choice but to do a rip, one is hardly going to buy a new screen just because of hdcp.

BloodyL · 18 Jan 2011 at 19:20

Buchanan0204 said:
A little update:

I have reinstalled MakeMkv and tried it again. It intially starts reading the disc at around 8-9 MB/s Then slows right down again.

I also started the rip with anydvd and it goes the exact same way. Tells me initially 75mins, then goes up to silly hours.

two seperate programs, doing the same thing. Am I missing something major?

Surely it can't be a faulty drive, can it?

Either the disc itself is foobed or the drive is, do you have any standard DVD's to try and rip?, anyDVD will handle those too.

Out of interest, do you also have Alcohol 120% installed?, I seem to remember that bundles a device driver that totally screws up any attempt at ripping.

Buchanan0204 · 18 Jan 2011 at 19:23

BloodyL said:
Either the disc itself is foobed or the drive is, do you have any standard DVD's to try and rip?, anyDVD will handle those too.

Out of interest, do you also have Alcohol 120% installed?, I seem to remember that bundles a device driver that totally screws up any attempt at ripping.

I will try another standard dvd and blu ray just now. The bluray is brand new as is the drive.

No alcohol installed (in system)

Buchanan0204 · 18 Jan 2011 at 19:24

I've had a look for a firmware update for this, can't seem to find it anywhere. Any ideas if there is any?