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Why Maxwell will probably launch on 28nm process.

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Nvidia and ATI (now AMD) have had a “pattern” when it comes to moving to smaller processes that has continued to the writing of this article to my knowledge.
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http://videocardz.com/45417/why-maxwell-will-probably-launch-on-28nm-process
 
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Martini1991 said:
No chance Nvidia are having 3 generations on 28nm.
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"If Maxwell is to be hard-launched before 2H2014 it will have to be on 28nm. Nvidia is likely to launch at least a few Maxwell chips before this to compete against new GCN 2.0 chips, coming in October."

They are saying that if they are going to release any Maxwell parts before Q2 2014 then those first few chips will be on 28nm with a refresh coming on 20nm that will be worth waiting for..

There are so many good price deals on current GPU's that I think they represent a far better Value VS performance point than any upcoming part. It makes sense for those with budgets to grab a good bargain now and ride it out until 20nm and a real boost in performance..
 
AMD are the ones releasing something to combat Nvidia, not Nvidia needing to release something to combat AMD.

Maxwell is not coming 28nm, Nvidia have shown us time and time again they don't care much for waiting a few months on the last fabrication until they launch.
 
Stop with the xx please.

Titan Ultra/785/790 will tide NV over until 20nm Maxwell, with AMD fans bragging about how they can get the same performance for half the price. Same old drill as usual.
 
No reason to launch Maxwell on 28nm early unless the extra GPGPU performance is desperately needed to counter GCN 2.0.

I think we'll see GTX 760 ti, GTX 790 and Nvidia Titan ultra. All under the 'Kepler' monikor. These parts could last until 20nm 'Maxwell' imho.

Have a feeling whatever AMD is going to launch soon is going to be pretty awesome.
 
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Last I heard nVidia was still getting allocation on TSMC for early next year and as most of the information seems to be based on a "pattern" (most of the details of which are of mixed accuracy in the article) I'm not gonna hold too much weight by it.

If they are going to make a 28nm Maxwell based GPU for release this year they would have had to have made that decision and started work on it quite awhile ago and I'd have thought atleast some leak of that would have come to light before now.


EDIT: I guess they might backport some improvements/features to Kepler and call it "Maxwell" even tho its still basically Kepler - kind of thing nVidia would do.
 
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Is it just me or is that articles reasoning a bit flawed, they talk about Nvidia making bigger chips than AMD and Nvidia not having a refresh of Kepler. Hmm last time I looked the 600 series were smaller chips than the AMD counterparts and isn't the 700 series the Kepler refresh.

Now I'm not saying that no Maxwell chips will be made on 28nm but I'm certain that none of the top end chips will be on 28nm.
 
The thing is, you can't just *decide* to produce a 20nm designed chip on a 28nm process without some serious redesign! So unless nVidia had incredible foresight to know that the 20nm node was going to be late then I serrrrrrrrriously doubt this will happen.

I'm on standby to eat my words :D
 
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