why nforce 4 sucs

ashagplz · 20 Feb 2006 at 22:51

nforce 3...never had a problem.

end of last year got
MB-070-AB Abit AN8 SLi Fatal1ty nForce4 SLi (Socket 939) PCI-Express CP-129-AM AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4800+ (Socket 939) - Retail
GX-070-LT Leadtek GeForce 7800 GTX Extreme Edition 256MB GDDR3 VIVO
OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) PC4000
antect 530w psu
athlon 4800

kept having have freeze problems...random reboot problems till 2 weeks till gradually the ability to overlock diminished till everything had to run at stock..then poof...the unit powered off in the middle of work and wouldnt reboot...stuck on error 8.7...fans roll but moniotor wont power on.,...one of those could be anything times...

replaced psu with enermax 630w..still no boot...no get to bios....

couldnt get it to boot no matter what...

got an asus an8 sli 32x.....powered up fine with all the old bits and new psu...chnaged one setting in bios to fire the ram into 250htt and the thing wont boot...fine i thinks so i clearm cmos...no good..clear cmos and battery and power off for hours....still wont boot...i chnaged one setting and now the clearm cmos aint working and the sympton is the same as befoire..fans spin but monitor wont turn on and cant get to bios...wtf?

ok....try to elinmiate all possibilities..now try brand new abit an8 sli....sticks of
cosair 3500ll.....plus the new enamermx...plus athlon x60....boots fine....woindows loads fine....try some settings...reboots fine.....turn it off for an hour and turn it on again..now getting bios error codes and wont boot...intetmittent codes..such as no voltage for ram...no voltage for cpu....swtiching from guru to bios and hangs....

so there you have it...2 mobos...all new parts except for graphics cards...and not a singlke working system......i am a loss as to what is going on other than prior to nforce4 i never experienced anything like this.....i am now scratchuing my head as to what i need to do to get working system....

suggestions welcomed....id go back to nforce 3 except i have a £450 pci express graphics card...

Big.Wayne · 21 Feb 2006 at 01:10

ashagplz said:
so there you have it...2 mobos...all new parts except for graphics cards...and not a singlke working system......i am a loss as to what is going on other than prior to nforce4 i never experienced anything like this.....i am now scratchuing my head as to what i need to do to get working system....

Hi,

what a royal pain in the assss! Sorry to hear you been having el-problemos, its pretty knackering when you have an issue that wont go away.

Only a few things come to mind. .

1) Faulty Graphics card?
Solution: Take out graphics card and try it in another machine, at the same time try a different graphics card in your machine. .

2) Case is causing a short?
Solution: Remove motherboard from case and set it up on a anti-static surface, then connect just the basics and do some tests. . .

3) Faulty home wiring/plug socket
Solution: Try plugging the computer into a different plug socket, even better a plug socket in a different room, better still would be a different house!

I have fallen foul of all the above, and from your descripton I don't see anything else obvious??

[edit] nForce-4 is very good for me!

ashagplz · 21 Feb 2006 at 09:39

thanks for the reply. Yes i tested each setup moutside the case with differring results. For example the first board to fail i tried outside the acse and it stopped at the same error code. Then after the other 2 i tried it again with a new processor and it booted to the bios screen. Then i setup it fully and booted to the bios. Then i fileft it in the bios for afew minutes without touching it and it shut itself off and couldnt be revived. Yes the graphics card is the one tiem i have yet to swap since my others are agp. Am getting a pci express to try today. Also i sued different pwoer cables and sockets for testing.

m3csl2004 · 21 Feb 2006 at 11:24

does sound bad

- sorry to hear your having trouble - nf4 is normally very good

the abits arnt great boards but the asus should be fine - are you 100% everythings in correctly? (something about a molex springs to mind)

sorry i cant be of much help today

FISHGUTS · 21 Feb 2006 at 11:54

I'm having the same problem on my asus a8ne. just done a search of the site and someone suggested that you remove the nv firewall and active armour drivers from the nvidia drivers and also the nv sw ide drivers, going to try it tonight dunno if abit boards have similar drivers, might be worth a try

ACPCUP · 21 Feb 2006 at 15:28

Let us know how you get on guys.

pastymuncher · 21 Feb 2006 at 19:41

Hi, i had the same problems when i first upgraded my rig from Nforce3 to Nforce 4 SLI and it was the Nvidia SW IDE drivers that caused it. Get them off, you don't need them. When i first set it all up i installed the mobo drivers automatically and had a nightmare. I reinstalled windows and loaded the Nforce drivers manually and declined to install the Nvidia SW IDE drivers and everything was ok.
I also read that the Nvidia firewall/active armour causes problems so i haven't activated that either.

Gas Panic! · 22 Feb 2006 at 08:23

I had so many problems with nForce 4 boards. I tried an Asus A8N5X, and my HDDs were gradually corrupted. So I bough an MSI K8N Neo4. Two days later, I got BSODs at bootup. I ran numerous RAM/HDD/CPU tests, bought new HDDs etc etc, and came to the conclusion that it HAD to be nForce 4. I finally ordered an Asus A8V-E SE VIA-based Mobo. Two weeks later, I'm still here, and everything is working as it should. It's a good Mobo, I'd definitely reccomend it to you.

EDIT: Interesting read: http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=8171

farooqm · 22 Feb 2006 at 10:46

FISHGUTS said:
I'm having the same problem on my asus a8ne. just done a search of the site and someone suggested that you remove the nv firewall and active armour drivers from the nvidia drivers and also the nv sw ide drivers, going to try it tonight dunno if abit boards have similar drivers, might be worth a try

I have an ASUS A8n-SLi board and got BSOD and all sorts of issues at the start. Removed the NV Firewall and Active Armour drivers and the NV sw ide drivers (I sue SCSI.. so not sure if this last one made any difference) and since then machine has been rock solid.

Now..only BSOD are of my own making when I've been trying to push my board past 305Mhz

LOL