Wigan Athletic, predictions for next season

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Well being a life long Wigan Athletic supporter going all way back to the dark days at the bottom of Div 3 at Springfield Park, what we have achieved since those days is nothing short of a miracle.

We've spent 8 years in the Prem, where everybody said we go down in the first season, we've got to 2 cup final's with us winning the main one the other week ;)

Plus we are now finally in Europe, not bad for a small club like Wigan Athletic.

Financially were in very good health, we be able to spend in the Chamionship to bring in more players if needs be, to replace the one's that leave.

Personally i can see us up there next season.

But what do you reckon will Wigan make a swift return back to the Prem?
 
Providing you don't loose too many players (although I see Callum McManaman going) you'll bounce back. The style of football played under Martinez is great going forward.
 
In what way are you in good financial health, 70+ mil debt, 20-30mil of that to banks rest to the bank of Dave, wage bill of 37mil, with BY FAR the highest dependancy on tv money which is the biggest difference between the prem league and championship.

If you were breaking even with 20mil sponsorship/stadium income and 20mil tv, and were still bringing in 25mil next year it wouldn't be so bad, but with 4mil gate receipts, seemingly unknown sponsorship(but tiny anyway) and 40-50mil tv money, with the latter almost completely disappearing, well 16mil parachute payment and I'm not sure if the normal championship tv money + prem league cash(most clubs get 4.6mil a year for both at the moment) is added on top or if the parachute payment is instead of it. So essentially 40-50mil income drops to at best 20mil, maybe only 16mil.

Financial health isn't remotely looking good, but it depends highly on, who would buy what players for how much, and how many players are on sensible deals that put in an automatic HEAVY wage drop for getting relegated. Some teams seem sensible enough to do it, some ridiculously don't. The parachute payments mean that relegated clubs have a budget normal league one clubs can't remotely come close to, however due to the often not sane wages of players who stay, its often not close to enough.

What happens to Wigan, who knows, it will depend which players force their way out, how much you get for them, and how much they can reduce wages, without the answers to those questions, who the hell knows.

Someone should pick up Figueroa, he can be completely awesome, and utter beast of a man. Mcmanaman, maybe, Malloney, Kone at his price I would be surprised if he would agree to a tiny wage relegation clause so wouldn't be surprised to see him leave. Mcathur, Mcarthy, Scharner I can all see people buying them as well. If that amount of players left, and the rest had automatic HEAVY wage drops they could be fine financially but with such a drastic squad chance Martinez(or someone else) would need to buy very well to get straight back up.

Basically the end of august will see what kind of squad they have for a promotion campaign and before some news about their wage bill is given out no one will have a clue how safe they are financially. Bouncing straight back up is going to be pretty damn important for a team with huge net debt and an owner that isn't THAT rich. ultimately the only chance in hell they have of ever paying off that debt is being in the prem league again and making a profit.
 
Paul Scharner is only on loan at Wigan.

I can see them going straight down again or being very close to.
 
I can see Wigan being the next Leeds...

If you doing anything productive next season, it will be to throw away Europe and exit at the first stage.
 
Depends who of the playing squad you can afford to hang onto really, the financial fair play will give you a year to either bounce back or live within your means. You would have to basically go against the rules and buy in one or two more players (its a long season next year) to do it and bail on Europe at the first opportunity.

Living within your means would ruin the club though, Wigans income outside of TV and chairman input is so small you would have to offload most of the playing squad.

Also hanging onto Martinez would be sensible, mostly as the collection of players seem to know how to play his tactics now and changing that wouldn't be a great idea.

So yeah its going to be a long and really hard season next year and if your chairman isn't realistic about the expectations of the squad you could end up like Birmingham (who are completely stuck in the champ from not offloading the bigger wages) or even crashing down like Wolves and so many other teams have done.
 
Relieved Villa fan here but i did enjoy watching Wigan when on the tellybox.

To be honest, i can see them struggling, Kone, Mcmanaman, Maloney will probably look to exit sharpish. The loss of huge TV revenue will be damaging, even with the parachute payments.

The FA Cup win is nice, but realistically they're not going to progress at all and will take it's toll on the team with even more games in the Championship.

Sorry to see them go, i'd have preferred Sunderland to be honest but that's football!.
 
If Martinez stays then I think there is a good chance you will bounce straight back. Even if you lose 3/4 main players.

If Martinez goes, it very much depends on who the next manager is IMO.

Really sorry to see Wigan go down. I'm a City fan and was genuinely really happy for you on Saturday. A very likeable club who play with such pride and hope.
 
Mid table obscurity. You have huge debts and Prem salaries to contend with. Martinez will probably be off as well and your relatively small fan base will dwindle. Sorry.
 
Mid table obscurity. You have huge debts and Prem salaries to contend with. Martinez will probably be off as well and your relatively small fan base will dwindle. Sorry.

I'm thinking this too.

If they play the good football and attack they have a chance but I can't see it happening.
 
Really depends on whether Martinez still only gets the best out of them for the last 6 weeks of the season or not.

If Wigan played all season like they do at the end of it they'd be mid table in the Prem or better.
 
If Wigan hang onto Martinez and a few of their players, going to be very hard with perhaps a few EPL teams coming in for Maloney, Mcmanaman etc then they could very well be back in the EPL but i reckon if they lose a few of their decent players and Martinez decides to not stick around then they could very well struggle to get back into the EPL next yr.
 
WIthout knowing how they react to the financial side, they could keep everyone, go 25mil further into debt and come straight back up or sell everyone to drop wages and buy a new bunch of players on 2k a week, its impossible to say.

Its not out of the realms of possibility that most of their players will stay, after all they have been happy there till now, won the FA cup and will be in the Europa league, if they move to midtable or lower prem teams(best most can hope for) then they won't get that chance and might never get that chance again. They can always leave the year after if Wigan can't get straight back up.
 
Being in Europe is a bad thing, they need to forget that and focus on the league. Thursday night football does nothing to help if you're playing at the weekend, and Wigan don't exactly have a Man City sized squad.
 
Coming from a Newcastle fan who has seen how damaging the Europa League can be to a small squad (and predicting it after watching Stoke last season) I would say you're going to struggle.
 
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