Wii DVI cable!

Energize · 11 Oct 2006 at 14:42

Chewy said:
Did you consider it's to keep the consoles cost and size down? Not to mention the fact most living rooms and bedrooms don't have ethernet.

Cost of ethernet is nothing compared to wifi which it does have and many more people have ethernet than wireless, a lan circuit is very small and could easily fit in the console. Added to that, ethernet is faster, more reliable, secure and doesn't cause interference.

SiD the Turtle · 11 Oct 2006 at 14:44

Chewy said:
Did you consider it's to keep the consoles cost and size down? Not to mention the fact most living rooms and bedrooms don't have ethernet.

Er, an ethernet port (what the 360 has) is a lot cheaper than wireless, and smaller to boot.

True that not many houses have ethernet in every room, but I'm willing to bet more have a cable across the house or will bridge from their PC's connection, than there are people with the more pricey wireless.

Energize · 11 Oct 2006 at 14:45

Indeed if you check the playstation forums for example, everyone is going for the cheapest option possible most even going for ics instead of wired routers nevermind wireless ones. Now you can get ethernet>ac adaptors anyway, making wifi undesirable for static lan devices such as pcs and games consoles.

~J~ · 11 Oct 2006 at 14:55

TBH, I think he was been sarcastic

NokkonWud · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:05

Nismo said:
A D cable is the same as DVI then is it?

Best options for me will be RGB scart if I use it on the downstairs TV, or component as I am already using the VGA port for the 360 on my LCD TV.

KVMs are your friend!

jimmyjimmyo · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:39

johntmanic said:
Ahhhhhh right ok then!
So does S-Video have a good picture? i think i might have to have my wii running through this? or through AV Cable? as my 360 is using component?

Hi m8 go into any electrical retailer and get 3 phono splitters ( 2 in 1 out) they will cost about £2 each and they work fine to split componant in because they are non mechanical/electrical so providing you dont have both consoles on at the same time there will be no inteferance between them both.

stay away from s-video tbh most lcd displays dont handle it that well and if you are planning to use the AV cable that comes in the box you may as well just rub mud in your eyes

Nismo · 11 Oct 2006 at 15:54

NokkonWud said:
KVMs are your friend!

Pointless in my case, the difference between component and VGA/DVI on a Wii will be insignificant I would have thought, seeing as it only goes to 480p.

Energize · 11 Oct 2006 at 16:20

Nismo said:
Pointless in my case, the difference between component and VGA/DVI on a Wii will be insignificant I would have thought, seeing as it only goes to 480p.

To use component on a vga display device though you need a pricy converter.

Nismo · 11 Oct 2006 at 16:21

Energize said:
To use component on a vga display device though you need a pricy converter.

Is that a statement in general, or aimed at me?

I've got an LCD TV which has both VGA and component inputs. In any case, you can get monitors that have both anyway as standard cant you?

Kohaashi · 11 Oct 2006 at 16:40

Nismo said:
Is that a statement in general, or aimed at me?

I've got an LCD TV which has both VGA and component inputs. In any case, you can get monitors that have both anyway as standard cant you?

Dell 2405

Energize · 11 Oct 2006 at 16:47

Nismo said:
Is that a statement in general, or aimed at me?

I've got an LCD TV which has both VGA and component inputs. In any case, you can get monitors that have both anyway as standard cant you?

Most monitors only have vga or dvi so you need to spend more on a converter.

jimmyjimmyo · 11 Oct 2006 at 17:20

You can get good quality converters for £30 or so but only if the signal is progressive.

Key Digital used to make some really nice ones ($150+) for the original xbox but you can get hong kong copies of the same thing nice and cheap from most import sites.

Or wait for someone to knock up a D-terminal rewire schematic and then convert it yourself or pay someone a few quid to do it for you.

I used to charge £35 all inc. for the modded official gamecube cable which wasn't that bad considering the cables were £25 before they had any work done on them.

Timber · 11 Oct 2006 at 21:37

Sorry to bump this but I was under the impression the D-Terminal cable is a component signal and not easy to convert to a VGA signal.

For reference this is the exact same line up of cables as Nintendo launched for the Gamecube in Japan.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D4_video_connector - from NTSC Forums

jimmyjimmyo · 11 Oct 2006 at 23:05

Timber said:
Sorry to bump this but I was under the impression the D-Terminal cable is a component signal and not easy to convert to a VGA signal.

For reference this is the exact same line up of cables as Nintendo launched for the Gamecube in Japan.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/wii/accessories/index.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D4_video_connector - from NTSC Forums

I found it very easy to convert the D-terminal cables but I guess it depends on an individuals ability with a soldering iron.

As I said though until I get a Wii D-terminal cable I will not know how easy it is to do but here is a guide to the GC one

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Technopolis-Mars/9984/ngcrgb_e.htm

Timber · 11 Oct 2006 at 23:11

jimmyjimmyo said:
I found it very easy to convert the D-terminal cables but I guess it depends on an individuals ability with a soldering iron.

As I said though until I get a Wii D-terminal cable I will not know how easy it is to do but here is a guide to the GC one

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Technopolis-Mars/9984/ngcrgb_e.htm

Cool thanks for the info. I'd hazard a guess these are going to be the same as the GC.

Looking at your guide though, what does the 'not accept 15hz mean in reality'?:

5.How to use.

This mod will work like as transcoders. So, you need progressive output. To invoke progressive mode is depend of software.Check your game's manual carefully.Your first invoke ot progressive mode, you will need another TV.
Most of VGA monitors can not accept 15kHz signals. When you using this cable for VGA, you can not see anything at 15kHz, even NGC's boot up screen.

jimmyjimmyo · 12 Oct 2006 at 01:36

Hi it's not my guide, Just the first one I could find m8.

Basicly sync at 15hz means that your monitor must be able to sync at 15hz otherwise that screen will not display the original xbox had the same issues but microsoft updated the dash to support progressive scan.

As an example with the gamecube the startup screen and system options are displayed at 15hz so most monitors will not show them but once the machine is booted into progressive scan the rate jumps to 30hz+ which 99% of crt's will sync to and the majority of lcds will as well.

The real issue for me as to whether it is worth my time to figure out a fast and easy mod for the Wii is whether the dashboard is displayed in progressive scan if it isn't then the cable loses a lot of appeal due to the fact that the online stuff on the Wii seems like quite a lot of the functionality for the machine (abit like the 360 in that respect).

To those who are in doubt of the advantage of VGA over componant try to get hold of a US cube and VGA cable and play res evil 4 it really shows the detail that the cube could pump out.

If you have a lot of retro machines and dont mind modding a cable or two then get a XRGB it upscales anything that is input into it and outputs it at 640x480 if you can find the newer models then you dont even need to mod anything it's just plug and play