Will I see any difference in Ram

Presumably you currently have 800mhz stuff.....so no, you wouldn't see any tangible difference. The only reason to upgrade would be if your current RAM is holding your overclock back.
 
Thanks, yes I have 800mhz, should have said. I dont OC, just let it run as it is. Its for Video editing.
 
I disagree. If you are video encoding, changing to 2GB per stick package would enable you to run 8GB (with a 64 bit OS) at 1066 rather than 4GB at 800MHz.

This would certainly provide a much bigger difference in video encoding apps. ;)
 
AndyOcUK said:
I disagree. If you are video encoding, changing to 2GB per stick package would enable you to run 8GB (with a 64 bit OS) at 1066 rather than 4GB at 800MHz.

This would certainly provide a much bigger difference in video encoding apps. ;)
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You just want to sell your ram :p

I think you wouldnt see much difference, the only reason you would buy that kingston is if you wanted to upgrade to 8gb, which for video editing would be useful for the amount you can store in a ram preview etc.
 
i upgraded from 800mhz to 1066 and it really helped my oc
the dram:fsb ratio is 12:8
with the q6600 at 3.25 (362x9) and the Ram at 1086
depends what your looking to do with the oc and everything.
Most people wont be able to tell the difference between 667 800 and 1066+
 
AndyOcUK said:
I disagree. If you are video encoding, changing to 2GB per stick package would enable you to run 8GB (with a 64 bit OS) at 1066 rather than 4GB at 800MHz.

This would certainly provide a much bigger difference in video encoding apps. ;)
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Andy, what ram would you recommend then.
I've this MB Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6

Thanks
 
Ynot said:
Would I see much difference taking my existing ram out and replacing it with Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 X 2GB) DDR2 8500C5 1066MHz
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If you will be sticking to 4GB of RAM then no, you won't notice any performance gains by simply changing to a 2x 2GB kit. However, if you are interested in upgrading to 8GB of RAM or you think you will later down the line, then you will have to change to a 2x 2GB kit since motherboards will only support up to 4 memory modules.
 
engstrom0304 said:
You just want to sell your ram :p

I think you wouldnt see much difference, the only reason you would buy that kingston is if you wanted to upgrade to 8gb, which for video editing would be useful for the amount you can store in a ram preview etc.
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Sold nearly 1000 sets in 3 weeks.....my RAM sales figures are not a problem m8 :p;) I agree with you that there would be next to no difference in day to day use, but video encoding is a different kettle of fish. There would be a sizable difference with 8GB of the same speed, let alone faster.

Ynot said:
Andy, what ram would you recommend then.
I've this MB Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6

Thanks
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Either the Kingston or the Corsair m8. Nothing in it performance wise. I'd go for the ones you like the look of best or the cheapest. Performance/ Timings/ speeds are identical no matter which you go for. ;)

VIDEO ENCODING is the key point here. If thats the main use for the PC then you would be mental not to upgrade to 8GB at these prices. Purely changing your existing set up from whatever 800MHz RAM to whatever 1066MHz RAM will not be worth the upgrade....it will be more of a sideways step. 8GB and Video Encoding are the important considerations. ;)
 
Thanks for all that advice. I might go for vista64bit later on so I take it 8gb is the way to go for my video editing/encoding.
So Kingston or Corsair, Say I want to go for 1066MHz RAM, as long as I go for a total of 8gb of the same, is this correct and thanks again.

Could I ask for a link or 2 so as to know, if i should place an order :)
 
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If your not overclocking going from 800mhz ram to 1066mhz ram will have very nominal effect. Going from 4Gb-8Gb on the other hand would probably help video encoding, if you CPU is fast enough so that ram is more of a bottleneck than the cpu.

On a Core Duo, or Quad system (not i7 or AMD setups), increasing the ram speed only increases the speed between the ram and the northbridge (memory controller), the FSB is still 1066 or 1333 depending on model. Due to the fact that Intel chips use a quad pumped FSB, and memory is normally configured as dual channel, double pumped, the reality is that for a 1066FSB processor going past 533mhz ram only give nominal gains due to slightly reduced latency. With the 1333FSB the matched memory speed is 667.

With an AMD or i7 processor, the memory controller is built into the CPU, so the faster the ram that the processor will take, the higher the overall bandwidth, as its not simply moving the bottle neck to the frontside bus.

8GB without 64bit windows (Windows 7 later this year, Vista64, or even XP64bit edition (which is really windows server 2003) is pointless, as the memory will be unusable. If your not buying the Windows right away, I wouldnt buy the ram either (Although OcUK have been doing some pretty tasty special offers on ram lately)

If you do buy the ram on a "special offer" dont bother installing more than 4GB on a 32bit version of windows. Some PC's bios and windows 32bit dont always behave when more than 4Gb is installed.
 
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Thanks for that too. No, not buying vista64 now, so maybe its best to wait till then.

I have a Q9550 and I don't OC so what would suit my need best then.
8gb 800mhz or 8gb 1066mhz.

From my reading into this its not so much the "mhz" its more changing to the 8gb that will make the big difference to me.
 
Q9550 has a 1333FSB, so ram at 667 will be fine, in theory ram at 1333 would give better latency, as its running in sync with the cpu, but Im pretty sure that video editing will be limited more by bandwidth than latency.

If your encoding software supports all 4 cores, your fairly likely to saturate the cpu's frontside bus, but even in this case, under a 64bit windows, and 8gb of ram, there would be a lot less pagefile use, which would increase performance considerably compared to a 32bit windows with 4GB.

Buying memory now, without 64bit windows is speculating on the ram market, if for example the fact that AMD's AM3 motherboards will probably be mostly DDR3 and Intels i7 and i5 are both DDR3, we might see a gradual decrease in DDR3 prices, and increases in DDR2, as your motherboard uses DDR2, you would want to buy it before prices started rising. On the other hand, the vast price on i7 motherboards, could keep demand for 775 and DDR2 high enough to prevent price rises. If you see a particually good special offer and can pick up new ram cheap enough, then go for it. Just dont bother installing until you get 64bit windows. (Although you may with to test it to make sure you dont get DOE memory).
 
Thanks again for the advice, Yes, my encoding software does supports all 4 cores and I'll keep an eye of the price and as you say if its cheap, buy it.
 
Ynot said:
A friend of mine has the same MB as me a Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6 and he said that he has this ram...Corsair QUAD2X4096-8500C5DF and he said...this ram can run at 1066mhz with the following timings 5-5-5-15 2T & 2.20V

I was wondering if this ram would do the same job, I would get a total of 8gb for vista 64bit

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-039-KS

Thanks for your help.
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I bought 8GB of that stuff 2 weeks ago. It will do the same job as the Corsair.
 
Corasik you said:

"On a Core Duo, or Quad system (not i7 or AMD setups), increasing the ram speed only increases the speed between the ram and the northbridge (memory controller), the FSB is still 1066 or 1333 depending on model. Due to the fact that Intel chips use a quad pumped FSB, and memory is normally configured as dual channel, double pumped, the reality is that for a 1066FSB processor going past 533mhz ram only give nominal gains due to slightly reduced latency. With the 1333FSB the matched memory speed is 667."

Thanks for this, it is exactly what I was after. I'm specing up a second hand upgrade and am looking at a E8600 and an Asus P5N board. Probably a 1Gg 4870 to go with. I just didn't know about the DDR2 and DDR3 thing. Seems I should go with good DDR2 memory then? 4Gg (2x2Gg)?
 
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