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Will Nvidia start to lose market share?

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BUDFORCE

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Just wondering.

If you look at the current line ups of both AMD and Nvidia, and not forgotting Intel is a thing.

All of the recent trend of threads on here are recommending AMD cards over Nvidia.

And right now personally I'd go (well have gone) AMD over Nvidia.

So you would have thought AMD will start clawing market share?

And if not why not?

Certainly things I can think of:

1. Nvidia 4090 - certainly a place in the market for these, for some money is no concern flagship card, and it makes sense.

2. Die hard Nvidia fans.

3. Average Joe buyers, and I think this is a big factor, if you go outside of the likes of the majority of us registered on these forums, most ill informed will recognise the brand and buy literally based on that.
 
I think AMD are the only company offering a decent £300-ish GPU right now which must be quite an appealing price point. But is it enough to steal any sales from Nvidia? Who knows.
 
BUDFORCE said:
I agree, but even so, will this materialise into a drop in market share?
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If nvidia push up prices to such an extent on the pc GPUs that even the most die hard fan boys turn to say screw that then yes

But I think we will be seeing another shortage of GPUs anyway as company's are buying GPUs as a stop gap on the ai GPUs as demand is so high for them

It's all win win for GPUs manufacturers and pants down and bend over time for gamers............ Again
 
NV won't loose market share, the AI boom will last a long time. Saw an article that said NV have an AI workshop which means you might be able to do AI on your NV GPU at home. Another way to make sales on the 40x line up.
 
Mean for the Desktop space doubt it, but for overall gaming, nope - AMD is uncontested here but I doubt Nvidia actually cares about the whole gaming space and I don't think for a long while.

They haven't even made something nintendo to allow them to have a upgrade sooner then later.
 
The big issue with AMD is supply. Nvidia like Intel simply produces far more GPUs and CPUs than AMD can which is partly why they can sell more. A lot of OEM laptops and desktops will use Intel and Nvidia parts still.For example quite a fair bit of wafers on 7NM which could have been used for dGPUs was used for consoles. Even with 5NM I can see AMD prioritising CPUs,APUs and commercial productions over consumer dGPUs.
 
I think on tech forums like this you see a lot of support for AMD because people into tech like an under-dog and like the idea/prospect of healthy competition to drive down prices.
We look into the features which are offered and decide which ones we will use and which we're not fussed about.

Outside of tech forums people will buy a fancy box or a well known brand. They'll buy Nvidia because of ray-tracing because they've seen it advertised on consoles. They'll buy AMD because the box says 16GB which is more than the Nvidia box which says 12GB... This where a lot of sales are generated. It's all about marketing and Nvidia know how to market their products and have a much higher marketing budget
 
no_1_dave said:
I think on tech forums like this you see a lot of support for AMD because people into tech like an under-dog and like the idea/prospect of healthy competition to drive down prices.
We look into the features which are offered and decide which ones we will use and which we're not fussed about.

Outside of tech forums people will buy a fancy box or a well known brand. They'll buy Nvidia because of ray-tracing because they've seen it advertised on consoles. They'll buy AMD because the box says 16GB which is more than the Nvidia box which says 12GB... This where a lot of sales are generated. It's all about marketing and Nvidia know how to market their products and have a much higher marketing budget
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Go into a store and you will mostly find Nvidia branded dGPUs for sale,and the same goes with most desktops and laptops. Even online most systems will have a Nvidia dGPU.Over the last 5~10 AMD has simply not invested as much as Nvidia into getting its dGPUs into OEM systems. Nvidia OTH has - just look at releases such as the GTX750TI which was an ideal product for prebuilt systems.This was partly a consequence of AMD cutting dGPU investment in favour of developing the Zen uarch and consoles.A huge percentage of its 7NM capacity went into consoles and CPUs. Graphics cards were basically last in the list.

Its the same with CPUs - there were certain budget AMD releases such as the Zen+ Ryzen 5 1600AF which were sold here and not in many markets elsewhere.

So even if someone wanted to get an AMD dGPU,the fact its simply harder to do so in a prebuilt system in many countries.Even with AMD having better CPUs for two periods in the last 20 years,Intel still outsold them overall because Intel could make more CPUs and AMD was capacity limited. This was the reason they got away with their dodgy moves back in the Athlon 64 era,because large OEMs couldn't get 100% of all the CPU supply they needed from AMD. Hence Intel had some sway over them.

AMD not only needs to have decent dGPUs,it also needs to be able to get these into prebuilt systems and in sufficient numbers. With something like Navi 33 it looks like it will be less capacity limited,but then again how much is AMD investing into getting these into prebuilt systems?
 
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No. Nvidia will keep the higher market share for a long time. AMD have had far better cards than nvidia previously and never got even close to 50/50 market share.

Like apple, people would buy nvidia even if it meant they lost a loved one.
 
hyperseven said:
Just look at Steam survey all of Nv40 product stack is in the charts whereas AMD...
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Yeah and I don't think anyone can deny that, and it has been like that for a long time.

But going forward if it will shift, maybe even a few percent?

If you look at the vast majority of threads on here and even the general consensus of most related youtube channels, most are saying right now AMD cards are more future proofed, better valued and often better performance then price.

And it makes sense, outside of the 4090. The 4090 is the only Nvidia card that makes sense. You want the best, you don't care about money fine, AMD cannot rival it in terms of pure performance. Not that I would spend that much money on a GPU, but I could at least understand why people would.

Anything below that it makes no sense what so ever, and I don't rmemeber a phase like this (at least in recent years) why there has been such a big gap.
 
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