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Will the Price of the 2080ti Fall?
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It's highly likely that NVIDIA have a minimum wafer agreement on 12nm with TSMC that's pretty damned high, due to it being specifically made for them, and also running significantly behind projected consumption due to the crypto GPU demand bust.
So I highly doubt they will be rushing to 7nm as it will cost them more.
To hit volumes, lowering pricing could theoretically help. But I strongly suspect their % margins are majorly down on these new cards, even if nominal margins are slightly up. Those dies are absolutely gigantic, GDDR6 is quite a bit more expensive than GDDR5, and the cards have been plagued with RMAs thus far. Even if prices are lowered, demand won't recover to anywhere near peak 10xx level. So dropping prices enough to make a real difference probably seems pretty undesirable from NVIDIA's point of view.
Also, due to the massive die sizes and high associated costs, IMO as soon as the new mid to high end cards appear for 7nm next year, the 20xx series will immediately be EOL'd, unless 7nm EUV wafer allocation is too low for them, and unlike the 10xx series.
So I highly doubt they will be rushing to 7nm as it will cost them more.
To hit volumes, lowering pricing could theoretically help. But I strongly suspect their % margins are majorly down on these new cards, even if nominal margins are slightly up. Those dies are absolutely gigantic, GDDR6 is quite a bit more expensive than GDDR5, and the cards have been plagued with RMAs thus far. Even if prices are lowered, demand won't recover to anywhere near peak 10xx level. So dropping prices enough to make a real difference probably seems pretty undesirable from NVIDIA's point of view.
Also, due to the massive die sizes and high associated costs, IMO as soon as the new mid to high end cards appear for 7nm next year, the 20xx series will immediately be EOL'd, unless 7nm EUV wafer allocation is too low for them, and unlike the 10xx series.
1080ti die size 471mm at 699 dollars give nvidia 1.48 dollars per mm of wafer. 2080 ti die size 754mm cost 999 dollars gives nvidia 1.32 dollars per mm of wafer. This is true reason the 2080ti cost so much die size. All the space the ray tracing cores use has to be paid for even though hardly any games use them.
I agree its to much to pay 300 extra for lightning effects hence the reason ive not upgraded but i can see how nvidia got to the price.
This is the reason the 1660 will be competive the ray tracing cores are removed and the performance to cost will be much better due to smaller die size.
I agree its to much to pay 300 extra for lightning effects hence the reason ive not upgraded but i can see how nvidia got to the price.
This is the reason the 1660 will be competive the ray tracing cores are removed and the performance to cost will be much better due to smaller die size.
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You can, considering how demanding RTX for a single card at 4K, SLI should be supported in those games. Looking forward to the SOTTR patch as MGPU works great plus in that, plus support for RTX should make it look stunning and provide a minimum of 60+ fps at 4K with 2x 2080 Ti's hopefully.
I'm talking about 2080ti performance being cheaper than £1200, not what the successor will cost. I fully expect for AMD & Nvidia 2080ti equivalents to be £600-800 next year. Certainly anything below that will be even cheaper by then with Navi expected to undercut current offerings (below the 2080) even further.