Will there be F1 in 2016?

[andicole0]

I'm sure there has to be but...

Just Ferrari, Mercedes and Haas possibly.

Mclaren - with potentially no drivers and a still rubbish engine?
Lotus - without a Mercedes engine and so many debts to taken up by Renault plus fitting a rubbish engine back in by next April? On top of which Maldanodos continued repair bill?
Force India/Sauber - No money and have just appealed to the EU because the F1 funding is badly distributed. Might have upset Bernie a bit?
Red Bull/Torro Rosso - No engine! Mercedes and apparently Ferrari have both said no now?

So, a 6 car field for Australia!! Even if Haas actually make it.

Oh, sorry -

Manor - anyone bothered? I love the team for it's efforts but why do they?

I'd be really disappointed to miss F1 next year but worst case is looking quite bad don't you think?

Andi.

 

[andicole0]

Of there will be F1. And a full grid most likely too.

Most of your 'points' are baiting. I think every team on the go now will be there in some shape of form in Australia.

Yes.

Evryone in F1 is all talk and no action. So just like everyone is dragging their heels not actually making any progress, everyone will also just talk about leaving but not actually do it.

McLaren will be there, at the back, with an improved but still off the pace engine, with Alonso and Button.
Manor will have 1 year old Mercedes engines but a complete dog of a chassis and still be slow and rubbish.
Haas will be there, running a Ferrari in a different colour.
Lotus will have Renault engines. All their debt will be paid off by Renault. They will be ok, midfield runners.
FI and Sauber will moan about money and moan that the rules aren't right, but do ntohing about it and turn up anyway.
RBR and STR will be running 1 year old Ferrari engines, and complaining that they are slow and threatening to quit, while getting podiums.
Ferrari will be in F1. Ferrari will always be in F1.
Mercedes will be out front winning.
OcUK will be full of crap.

Yes

1 year old engines are not allowed. Manor has an exception this year.

Andi.

 

[andicole0]

WEC engines similar to F1 would be interesting too F1 merge engine specs.
Andi.

 

[andicole0]

What?! Why on earth would WEC want anything to do with F1 engine specs? WEC has managed to migrate to hybrid technology perfectly with regulations which have resulted in massively different solutions from several manufacturers yet all fairly evenly matched.

WEC shows F1 how it should be done and F1 needs to learn from them.

Yes, sort of what I meant actually
Andi.

 

[andicole0]

So they do, ok ignore everything I said



Ah ok, I thought you were proposing some kind of equal merging of tech or that WEC should adopt things from F1

WEC is the pinnacle of motorsport now. F1 is the pinnacle of regulations and bureaucracy.

Agreed, great power units and a good variety, manufacturers teams though at the top.

Andi.

 

[andicole0]

I don't agree Renault got no benefit from 4 title wins, they were known as redbull infinity, it's up to renault which of their brands they put on the car not redbull. And what team has won in that era and stopped to say "oh we must thank our wonderful engine supplier who we could not have done this without"? None, because lets face it, one engine was much like any other in that time.

They might as well stop to thank their brake pad supplier or bob who runs the autoclave, in-fact bob probably did much more to secure their titles than either of the others.

It's just sour grapes because they're now ****. Ferrari realised they were and got to work on fixing it, Renault realised they were and whinged about how unfair it was.

Have to correct you there a bit, the name was and still is Infiniti Redbull Racing no sign of Renault in the name in fact Infiniti cars are of course a Nissan brand. I can see why Renault got little or no recognition.

I think that Horner seems to be a bit of a whinger now.

Andi.

 

[andicole0]

Without an agreement to supply year old engines RBR are up the creek without a paddle. Ferrari had offered year old engines which is not allowed (Manor exception of course). They won't get a Mercedes engine now. So that leaves crawl back to Renault? or ask McLaren Honda.

What would you do?

Andi.