Win 7 UAC annoyance

Ysmalari

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Had a search for this but couldn't find anything and there's probably a really simple fix which I'm missing.

I'm running riva tuner on windows startup to control the fan settings on my graphics card but always have to ok the "Do you want to allow the following program to make changes..." UAC message.

Is there any way to permanently allow riva tuner so I don't have to click ok every time?
I know I could reduce the UAC setting but I prefer to have the extra level of protection so I always get informed when something is installing/changing settings.

Thanks for any suggestions
 
Thanks Burnsy.
That seems like a bit of an oversight on Window's part, I know riva tuner isn't going to destroy my system so it seems a bit odd that I can't create an exception. :(
 
It's not an oversight, it's by design. A whitelist would potentially be a big security risk and render UAC much less effective.
 
Agreed, a virus could add itself to a whitelist and then you'd be in trouble :) TBH I always fully disable UAC
 
I undestand that and I do appreciate the extra level of security UAC offers but surely a user with admin privileges should be allowed to do this?

A little more customisation would be good as you basically have a choice of 'Alert me for everything' or 'Alert me for nothing' on the UAC settings, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground.

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oxygene - a fair point I suppose if the virus is running under admin privileges
 
oxygene said:
Agreed, a virus could add itself to a whitelist and then you'd be in trouble :) TBH I always fully disable UAC
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No more trouble than disabling UAC completely though.

Ysmalari said:
I undestand that and I do appreciate the extra level of security UAC offers but surely a user with admin privileges should be allowed to do this?

A little more customisation would be good as you basically have a choice of 'Alert me for everything' or 'Alert me for nothing' on the UAC settings, there doesn't seem to be a middle ground.

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oxygene - a fair point I suppose if the virus is running under admin privileges
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You shouldn't really be running as admin on a day to day basis anyway. That's one of the primary reasons UAC was introduced. It's a huge security risk.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
You shouldn't really be running as admin on a day to day basis anyway. That's one of the primary reasons UAC was introduced. It's a huge security risk.
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Oh I'm not, but it would be nice to login as admin and then create an exception for just one program.

AbsenceJam said:
Using task scheduler to run it at startup or login with elevated privs you can get around this.
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Does this get around the UAC then, I wouldn't have thought it would allow that if you can't create single program exceptions?
 
lsg1r said:
have you tried this
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/11949-elevated-program-shortcut-without-uac-prompt-create.html

It's basically making an elevated program
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Thanks lsg1r that looks interesting, the only thing which I'm not sure about is there's a warning at the beginning of the guide

This shortcut and task can only be created and work while logged in as an administrator account.
This shortcut will not work in a standard user account
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As Burnsy mentioned it's not a great idea to run as admin all the time.
 
I run as admin so I don't have that sort of issue (never had any issues) but I'm pretty sure if you click the "run if user is logged on or not" bit in part 4 it should run even in a standard user account.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
It's not an oversight, it's by design. A whitelist would potentially be a big security risk and render UAC much less effective.
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Really? Surely if you make it so you need UAC elevation to add programs to the whitelist in the first place there's no security issue? Since if you give permission to add something unknown to the whitelist then you're just as likely to just accept whatever UAC prompt comes up when the virus runs anyway?

Personally I am running with UAC disabled, simply because I did with Vista. I have a fairly good AV, and I consider myself fairly competant when it comes to not getting viruses. Of course, things can get in through malicious ads and other web trickery, but this is rare and I have an AV for that, plus adblock and noscript. It just saves so much hassle, I've had to talk several friends through getting some games working because they wanted to save to the Program Files directory, or needed to copy files over to it, and so on.
 
lsg1r said:
I run as admin so I don't have that sort of issue (never had any issues) but I'm pretty sure if you click the "run if user is logged on or not" bit in part 4 it should run even in a standard user account.
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That would be perfect if it's the case, I'll give it a go when I get home tonight.

Thanks all for your suggestions and advice :)
 
Remove the app, reinstall the app by right clicking and install as admin. This will shim up the installer so you don't get UAC prompts when running normally. If it's a service, choose to log on the service with an admin account.
 
iviv said:
Really? Surely if you make it so you need UAC elevation to add programs to the whitelist in the first place there's no security issue? Since if you give permission to add something unknown to the whitelist then you're just as likely to just accept whatever UAC prompt comes up when the virus runs anyway?
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The reason(s) are quite complicated, but it's definitely by design. Microsoft want developers to make programs that don't generate UAC prompts at all. If you simply need to add programs to a whitelist then everybody would take the shortcut and just make the installer do it for you.
 
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