Win the new 8Pack Polaris Mk2.5

flea.rider said:
nice bit of profit there £21,501 for a 2k case
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Yeah that doesn't seem right to me. Surely that is way above the cost of the computer and the 2nd prize, even if the raffle people take some cut.

Shouldn't OCUK donate all profits above a certain number of sales to charity? that would be better.
 
links broke anyway raffled up server down.. isnt this just like those ITV comps, hey we are giving away a car and a house. oh its £10 to enter?
 
snips86x said:
No different to the lottery...
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Which has different rules in NI. We're half a century behind on most things :/

Northern Ireland

12.6.3.
Northern Ireland operates under rules preventing any form of purchase that allows you to enter a prize draw. Often, promoters running UK-wide prize draws will exclude people in Northern Ireland from the promotion. For Northern Ireland prize draws, you must either exclude people who live in Northern Ireland or find a ‘no-purchase necessary’ way to promote the prize draw in Northern Ireland.
 
reiyushin said:
Which has different rules in NI. We're half a century behind on most things :/

Northern Ireland

12.6.3.
Northern Ireland operates under rules preventing any form of purchase that allows you to enter a prize draw. Often, promoters running UK-wide prize draws will exclude people in Northern Ireland from the promotion. For Northern Ireland prize draws, you must either exclude people who live in Northern Ireland or find a ‘no-purchase necessary’ way to promote the prize draw in Northern Ireland.
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Good god!!!
 
Is the £7.99 fee definitey fixed or are you going to claim exchange rate fluctuations and increase it before I confirm my entry?
 
reiyushin said:
Which has different rules in NI. We're half a century behind on most things :/

Northern Ireland

12.6.3.
Northern Ireland operates under rules preventing any form of purchase that allows you to enter a prize draw. Often, promoters running UK-wide prize draws will exclude people in Northern Ireland from the promotion. For Northern Ireland prize draws, you must either exclude people who live in Northern Ireland or find a ‘no-purchase necessary’ way to promote the prize draw in Northern Ireland.
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There is no statutory definition of a lottery in Northern Ireland. The courts in Great Britain, through judgements in the House of Lords, have, however, established that: "a lottery is the distribution of prizes by chance where the persons taking part in the operation, or a substantial number of them, make a payment or consideration in return for obtaining their chance of a prize. There are really 3 points one must look for in deciding whether a lottery has been established: first of all, the distribution of prizes; secondly, the fact that this was to be done by means of a chance; and thirdly, that there must be some actual contribution made by the participants in return for their obtaining a chance to take part in the lottery." (Lord Widgery 1976)

The law in England, Wales and Scotland Lotteries include raffles, tombolas, sweepstakes and some other activities. In the law of England, Wales and Scotland, a lottery is a type of gambling which has three essential characteristics. • You must pay to enter the game. • There is always at least one prize. • Prizes are awarded purely by chance

You have entered the raffle on the basis of knowledge in answering the qualifying question, therefore negating the stipulations of the law/regulations. You have paid to get at a question, a correct question-answer give you a free entry to obtain the prize. Also in the northern Ireland gambling act there is no mention of raffles , and the sheer lack of a definition of a lottery leave it open to abuse
 
Sounds suspiciously like a purchase that allows you to enter a prize draw...

As for no definition of lottery in NI;
The law on lotteries in Northern Ireland is the Betting, Gaming, Lotteries and Amusements (NI) Order 1985, as amended by the Betting and Lotteries (NI) Order 1994. Further details of the law are contained in the Lotteries Regulations (NI) 1994.

A quick google shows plenty of examples. The question part is to avoid it being a lottery, that doesn't change the NI law that (as with the USA) people must be offered a free (or cost no more than a stamp) entry route.

Just to add, I've no intent on entering, free or not, just thought it was an interesting observation.
 
Just a note on the "profits" of this raffle.
After the prizes are paid for, they also pay a transaction fee on every purchase, Facebook ads, website running costs, premises costs, 5% charity donation and the list goes on. Any money that is left goes straight into buying more prizes for future raffles.

Raffledup also comply with gambling commission rules.

Hope this clears a few things up
 
Not sure where he got £2k from? They sell the Polaris on their website for £11.5k. So take off 5% and second prize draw, minus marketing/advertising (maybe £1-2k), other commissions, they're probably taking about £4-5k only if they sell out, which gives them a buffer of about 500 non-sales from breaking even. Seems about reasonable to me.

I occasionally enter into the car raffles because it's much better odds than the lottery! Will be great if I win a car for £1! You always get a few people every post they make complaining about their huge profits, not even thinking about the costs associated with it. At the end of the day they're a business, they're not going to do all the work with the risk involved for a potential £1k only if fully sold out.
 
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Not a big fan of the look of this system to be honest.

@Bailey While I'm happy to take a punt if it benefits charity, it would be good to see some of the old forum competitions come back. I refuse to use gleam and can't stand that it's become so prolific.
 
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