Windows 10 End of Life prep

[MoridinUK]

Hey all,

So My family of 5 have 4 desktop pcs and none of them are able to support windows 11, due to the lack of security features on the mainboards or processors. Basically none of my processors (i7-7700k, i5-6600k, ryzen 1800x, i5-4440) are compatible and while the two bigger boards have UEFI secure boot they don't have TPMs.

So I'm stuck, I'm not too worried, there is time and it looks like they will still provide occasional security updates even after end of life, (simply because there will be lots of us unable to step up) I'm still angry about Microsoft effectively obsoleting all my pcs (all of which perform what we need them for just fine)

I'm trying to figure out a cost effective way to resolve this, I was looking at something like the i5-12400f or ryzen 5 5600x to replace a couple of these systems. But then I started looking at mainboards for them and now I'm paranoid I may end up buying one that still doesn't meet the TPM 2.0 requirement. Not all boards have it clearly stated that they support windows 11 (on the over clockers store) and some say they do but also that they have a TPM header, so I wonder if that meant I needed an extra TPM card?

I'm open for any advice on this, one friend even suggested buy windows 10 server keys as they end of life is longer for them!

 

[MoridinUK]

Thank you both, this is news to me, given that checking with their upgrade tool told me I couldn't upgrade still, I'll investigate both links and see what is best to do!

 

[MoridinUK]

My problem with staying on windows 10 past end of life is lack of support for security updates. I'm not sure updating to windows 11 but being told I still wont get some/any (including but not limited to) security updates is going to solve that I think we'll have to wait and see if an unsupported windows 10 pc is more of a security risk than an un updateable windows 11 pc?

It's these unknowns I hate. But thank you again!

MS allowed non-compliant devices to upgrade (to Windows 11) a few weeks ago.

Little video for you here.

 

[MoridinUK]

Plenty of people are still using much older versions than Windows 10

Windows OS market share

Windows 7: 2.47%
Windows 8.1: 0.31%
Windows XP: 0.25%
Windows 8: 0.16%

A bakery in Indiana is even using Commodore 64 computers to run their cash registers.

Just make sure your router's firmware is up to date. Windows Defender will probably still get virus definitions on a regular basis. If not, try a 3rd party solution.

Yeah I'm aware, just, if a lot of people don't upgrade, it would be a great target to exploit.

I'll take it all one step at a time I think.

The Ryzen system you can likely update the bios and drop in a cheap 5xxx second hand. Not up to date on the Intel sockets but worth looking at

Is this problem different on AMD then? I know my old intel boards wont support this but if my AMD board will support a supported CPU does that solve the issue?

If you use the work around method you still get updates.

Is this the winbootmate method?

 

[MoridinUK]

Even now I still see things missing on windows 11 that I use on windows 10 on a regular basis (a lot of it is in file explorer) so I kind of don't want to update my main pc to windows 11 from windows 10.

I also don't like the default use of encryption on my desktop, yes I know I can jump through some hoops etc...

I will likely get a better firewall etc and maybe antivirus but depending on how lazy I am I may just bite the bullet and go hunting out for 'fixes' to my issues (not found them yet)

It adds disk encryption by default? But that is going to slow it down so much, isn't it?