Windows 10 instal hangs

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Hi guys,

I’ve just built the following:

X570 unify, 5600x, 32GB 3600 c16, 2 Nvme drives.

It’s on a test bench with a 1000w seasonic PSU and using a 1030 GT as a display output.

I boot from USB to start windows installation, it goes through fine, when it restarts it hangs at the booting screen with the windows icon in the background and the spinning wheel (which stops).

Bizarrely the mouse and keyboard work fine, I can move the cursor.

But it doesn’t progress any further (at least it hasn’t for the past hour).

I’ve tried, updating the BIOS (on latest now), using 1 stick of ram, ram is set to default 2400, everything else in the bios is stock, installing to two separate drives…

I’ve never had this before. Any ideas? Would be grateful for anyone’s thoughts.

 

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I assume the NVME drives are clean without a previous Windows installation on them?

EDIT: As an aside and may not be the problem here Windows 10/11 really is this **** and sometimes can spend 6+ hours appearing to do nothing before suddenly getting a move on

Yeah mate, I wiped them both beforehand and during the installation.

My only other option is to leave it over night and see if it resolves itself? The system still responds moving around the cursor. And I can turn caps lock on and off, plus the fault code display on the MB is showing a live fluctuating CPU temperature.

I don’t really want to try windows 11 as the whole point is I intend to use it for testing old GPU’s.

Wtf Microsoft!

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Is it an old Windows install USB or recently created?

It was an older version but I also just downloaded the current variant, same problem. Hangs at the same point.

Yeah good shout reference installing it on another machine, maybe I will do that tomorrow. Already had enough problems with my 7800x3d not booting this morning, spent ages trying to figure both of these machines out and losing the will to live haha.

Sometimes nothing ever just seems to work.

 

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I think the board is faulty. It won’t let me change the date in the BIOS whatever I do. It’s set to some odd days in the far future regardless of what you enter. And windows 11 won’t install either.

Oh eBay

 

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Checked the CMOS battery is OK? but doesn't surprise me for an ebay board.

Yup replaced it, made no difference. Seller is claiming it was rock solid when sold and no fault.

Bit stuck, wasn’t cheap either.

I would USB boot the Arch Linux installer and run hwclock --set --date="01/01/2023" at the command line then reboot to the BIOS and check if you can now change it to todays date.

Interesting - will have a go with this tomorrow, thanks.

 

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Yeah only been using one stick of ram, will also try a different cooler

I would USB boot the Arch Linux installer and run hwclock --set --date="01/01/2023" at the command line then reboot to the BIOS and check if you can now change it to todays date.

Great tip this thanks, unfortunately it didn’t work. System time was correct but no matter what I did I couldn’t get it to copy to bios.

Board shows two dates on the bios, top left hand it says 1st Jan 25500, then in the settings it says 01/01/98. I think something has gone haywire with the internal clock somehow. Tried to flash the bios again but no luck.

Looks like I’m going to have to find a replacement board but all the SLI/Crossfire ones are expensive still ugh. All I wanted to do was test some of my old GPU’s haha…

I got fed up and ordered a new Dark Hero instead :/

The guy is being responsive on eBay at least, but I’ve run out of ideas. He said no returns accepted but I’ve started one anyway and see if eBay step in.

 

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Not that I can tell. I’ve actually ordered a replacement CPU as well just incase (plan on returning it, it’s open box anyway) as the seller is being adamant it’s the CPU. At least this way I can prove with photographs that’s not the case - or maybe it is…!

I don’t see why it would be though, usually a CPU either works or it doesn’t.

 

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As a last resort you could try the MSI Flash BIOS button.

I think it requires a FAT32 USB2 stick with your motherboard's BIOS on it named MSI.ROM and without powering on the system you press the BIOS flash button on the back panel and it flashes the BIOS on the USB stick. Can look it up for full instructions. Reason it might work is it looks like it zaps the CMOS settings hopefully including the date which should solve the problem.

Yeah I can try that, I’ve already flashed the BIOS from within the BIOS twice though, it’s on the latest BIOS and both times it cleared the CMOS settings.

It’s very weird, I’ve not seen anything like it before.

I will try the other CPU on Friday and if that still won’t install windows/can’t change date in BIOS, then it’s clearly the board.

 

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That really very weird, can you please provide screenshot of BIOS screen with that strange 2 dates.

I checked youtube for MSI MEG X570 UNIFY BIOS screen. The date on top left screen is calendar date and time, the other date on right screen is the BIOS build date but... 01/01/98??? Made no sense, BIOS build date should be between 2019 to 2023, latest BIOS build version 7C35vAF date should be read as 03/03/2023.

I took a video to show the guy on eBay, whatever you enter it makes no difference to the date, it just refuses to change. I’ve tried flashing the bios, XMP off, single stick of ram, clear cmos, new battery, tried setting the clock via the Linux installer, and many other changes.

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Ah I see. How very weirdly.

I suggest you to try Live11 to see if you can boot Windows 11 from USB live image directly from RAM without install Windows 11.

It is weird. I’m going to try with another 5600x on Friday and if that doesn’t work, I’m certain it’s the board. I’m certain it’s the board anyway. The ram is brand new Kingston 3600 C16, and I’ve tried both sticks individually. I would be amazed if both sticks were somehow faulty, and even then I can’t see why they would cause that with the bios.

I want to install windows 10 on it ideally, as the whole point is it’s for testing loads of old GPU’s I’ve been collecting for a while. Some of them are quite old and don’t have windows 11 drivers.

 

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Would this not be fault codes not CPU temps?

What are the numbers being shown?

Debug code table start from page 49 in the manual.

I don’t think so, the board goes through post and then is trying to load/finish the windows installation, at which point the board shouldn’t be showing any changing fault codes (beyond post).

 

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The latest BIOS should be correct version 7C35vAF

When you download the very latest bios
from MSI it’s labelled in the zip folder as E7C35AMS, which is weird. But I’ve double checked it. Unless I’m going mad.

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