Which I expect is why they have decided to run the Preview program beyond the release of W10, to allow them access to a massive test user base which will (hopefully) mean that once an update hits the public build, it will have been extensively tested.
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Which I expect is why they have decided to run the Preview program beyond the release of W10, to allow them access to a massive test user base which will (hopefully) mean that once an update hits the public build, it will have been extensively tested.
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We hope...
I hope that they allow 3rd parties to be involved too. I.e. people like nVidia can 'hook into' the Preview program and offer Insiders the ability to run betas of their graphics drivers too.
Microsoft can tackle the issue if millions of hardware combinations by having millions of testers.
Microsoft can tackle the issue if millions of hardware combinations by having millions of testers.
I guessed that was probably the case... and it wouldn't even surprise me if they were actually paid an 'incentive' also, to include it!
Presumably it will still be 'eligible' for an ultimate 'upgrade' to Windows 10 though, in due course.
What I am tempted to do, is to install the latest preview version of Windows 10 under the insider program, and then transfer the hard drive to the other laptop.
If it then refuses to 'work', as it probably will, I am no worse off, as I will still have to buy a Windows 10 licence anyway, and I will have had a chance to 'evaluate' it on a system which isn't that critical.
Thanks for your feedback, which is appreciated.
What I am tempted to do, is to install the latest preview version of Windows 10 under the insider program, and then transfer the hard drive to the other laptop.
If it then refuses to 'work', as it probably will, I am no worse off, as I will still have to buy a Windows 10 licence anyway, and I will have had a chance to 'evaluate' it on a system which isn't that critical.
Thanks for your feedback, which is appreciated.
You might be suprised...
I had a spare SSD in a laptop that was running the W10 preview, then had an iMac that was playing up with a new hard drive that was in it, I took the hard drive out of the laptop and put it in the iMac with the intention of reinstalling oSX and testing the machine from that, I got called away to do other stuff and when I returned it had booted into W10....
Yeah I wouldn't be surprised either. 'Officially' its $0 for devices with screens under 14", and $15 for devices with screens over 14". However, as the aim is to counter the rise in things like Chromebooks, I expect Microsoft will have thrown licenses at OEMs to just get them out there.
Yep, my HP Stream 7 got the upgrade prompt in the task bar. I don't know what version it will upgrade to though, we will have to see if it goes to '10 with Bing' or not.
What I am tempted to do, is to install the latest preview version of Windows 10 under the insider program, and then transfer the hard drive to the other laptop.
If it then refuses to 'work', as it probably will, I am no worse off, as I will still have to buy a Windows 10 licence anyway, and I will have had a chance to 'evaluate' it on a system which isn't that critical.
Thanks for your feedback, which is appreciated.
The 10 Preview is licensed in itself, under the Preview program. It doesn't need any other underlying license. This will continue after July 29th too as they are keeping the Insider program running to test pre-release updates to Windows 10 going forward. If you wan't to have a free copy of Windows 10 you can, so long as you stay as an Insider and always run the preview build. If thats what you want to do then just take the HDD out the laptop and stick it in the new machine and then install 10 Preview from an ISO. It won't touch or need the key embedded in the laptop at all.
And then if you ever do decide to put Windows on the laptop, just whop in a USB stick with an '8.1 with Bing' ISO on it and it will detect the key and install fine.
Anybody?
In same boat with no clear answers to this yet.
I am trying to avoid as much downtime as possible with this "upgrade".
It would be great to know if anyone is having any problems with the normal(ish) programs that we all have and how Win10 is performing.
My main concerns are,
Reaper and all my 3rd party plugs. None half inched.
Photoshop CS6 ext.
I tried to avoid reading that I might have to fiddle with my BIOS?
Say it isn't so...
You won't have to fiddle with your BIOS.
The compatability with apps is entirely up to the app developers to have made them W10 compatable by then.
As for drivers, you won't get 'meltdown', but I expect you will get a bunch of stuff stop working until you install a Windows 10 driver for it.
The compatability with apps is entirely up to the app developers to have made them W10 compatable by then.
As for drivers, you won't get 'meltdown', but I expect you will get a bunch of stuff stop working until you install a Windows 10 driver for it.
If you're worried about downtime, don't upgrade in the first couple of months. Let hardware vendors who have dragged their heals catch up with drivers and let somebody else find the problems in upgrading.
This is good advice.
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NO... next question?
I thought it was free for the first year? I read they were going down the same route as Apple by making their os free?
Thanks again for your reply Skeeter, which I have only quoted in part, as I am not quite sure how to obtain a copy of a Windows 10 Preview ISO.
Are these available for download now, and then updated each time an upgrade is released, or will we have to wait until after 29th July to obtain one?
Yep, they are available now. Sign up at https://insider.windows.com/ and you can get access to both the Windows 10 and the Windows 10 Mobile Insider Previews.
When you go through to the PC part to get the Preview, look for the link to download the ISO. Grab the correct language and 64/32 bit version you need, use Rufus (https://rufus.akeo.ie/) to create a bootable USB stick, and away you go.
The current build (10130) is a beta. Come the 29th July when Windows 10 officially ships, the Insider preview will be updated to the same build as the Public build, and then after that Microsoft will push out further updated builds to Insiders first for them to test before they then push those updates out to the proper Public installs through Windows Update. For as long as you stay in the Insider Program you can run this Insider installation for completely free with no need for a license.
Basically if you agree to be a guinea pig, you get Windows 10 for free. Seems fair to me
Disclaimer: Obvisouly, being a tester you might get things break and stuff might not always work. So I wouldn't suggest putting this on important machines you need to be stable. For those I would seek to use a proper Windows license, so you only get the approved, finalised updates and nothing potentially flakey. Personally, my server machine and my GFs laptop are going to get Proper Windows 10 as I need them to be stable, and I'm going to run Preview on my PC as I'm fine with the risk.
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That is what I shall do, much appreciated.
Thank gawd for that, thank you.
Yep, they are available now. Sign up at https://insider.windows.com/ and you can get access to both the Windows 10 and the Windows 10 Mobile Insider Previews.
When you go through to the PC part to get the Preview, look for the link to download the ISO. Grab the correct language and 64/32 bit version you need, use Rufus (https://rufus.akeo.ie/) to create a bootable USB stick, and away you go.
The current build (10130) is a beta. Come the 29th July when Windows 10 officially ships, the Insider preview will be updated to the same build as the Public build, and then after that Microsoft will push out further updated builds to Insiders first for them to test before they then push those updates out to the proper Public installs through Windows Update. For as long as you stay in the Insider Program you can run this Insider installation for completely free with no need for a license.
Basically if you agree to be a guinea pig, you get Windows 10 for free. Seems fair to me
All sounds fine and dandy to me... hopefully others will find this information useful also.
One last (I hope!) question... do you expect there to be beta preview build released before the 29th July?
I have got a bit of other work to do before then anyway, so wouldn't mind waiting a few more days to get a later, and hopefully more stable, build.
All sounds fine and dandy to me... hopefully others will find this information useful also.
One last (I hope!) question... do you expect there to be beta preview build released before the 29th July?
I have got a bit of other work to do before then anyway, so wouldn't mind waiting a few more days to get a later, and hopefully more stable, build.
I would get the 10134 build, as it is a bit more stable than the 10130 build. I had no end of issues with the latter, but since updating to the 10134, not encountered any problems.
The builds are getting better all the time so being on the latest one you can is best.
If you set your install to the Fast ring then it will be updated pretty rapidly once a new build is out anyway.
Whats the latest build on the Fast ring? The ISO is 10130 but that usually lags a bit behind the rings.
If you set your install to the Fast ring then it will be updated pretty rapidly once a new build is out anyway.
Whats the latest build on the Fast ring? The ISO is 10130 but that usually lags a bit behind the rings.
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If upgrading for free from Win 7, what happens when the inevitable hardware change/system refresh is needed down the line? Will we have to pay to install 10 again?