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Windows 10

Discussion in 'Windows & Other Software' started by Glaucus, Sep 30, 2014.

  1. Rroff

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    Despite some articles casting aspersions at Windows 7 in the mix almost all these vulnerabilities are Windows 10 ones and they've released security updates for 7 anyhow. Personally I feel safer on 7 than 10 right now if hackers get ahead of some of the 10 issues like they seem to have done with IE despite MS getting the 10 fixes out pretty fast.

    EDIT: Not that I recommend staying on an older unsupported OS but Windows 10 isn't exactly covering itself in glory on the security front.
     
    Last edited: Feb 15, 2020
  2. mrbell1984

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    Non of the platforms are really to be fair. I'm getting updates on all platforms for security.
     
  3. LoadsaMoney

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    Last edited: Feb 15, 2020
  4. mrbell1984

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  5. LoadsaMoney

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    Aint got a clue :p
     
  6. V F

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  7. Elevon

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    Another case of Microsoft causing issues and poor old Win10 gets screwed with their clumsy efforts, they either need better resources or better skilled software programmers with regards to Windows Updates, as to what's safe well all OS have issues in some form, I personally feel safer on Linux, end of the day while there are people around ( hackers) nobody is safe.
     
  8. LoadsaMoney

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    Well ive uninstalled that update, just in case :p
     
  9. mrbell1984

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    For the people that didn't get problems it was fine. There was no need to uninstall that update.
     
  10. thenewoc

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    Having a bit of an issue the last few days. Machine hangs on boot up, wait ages but then I have to reboot for it to then get to the Windows login but still taking unusually long time. Thing is I don't appear to have kb4524244. The latest updates I have that installed on the 14/02 are;

    kb4534132
    kb4537759
    kb4532693
     
  11. mrbell1984

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    Start > Run > Type CMD > Press Enter > Type "systeminfo". Will give you a list of installed hotfixes.
     
  12. thenewoc

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    thanks @mrbell1984 this is what I have;

    14 Hotfix(s) Installed.
    [01]: KB4534132
    [02]: KB4503308
    [03]: KB4508433
    [04]: KB4515383
    [05]: KB4516115
    [06]: KB4517245
    [07]: KB4520390
    [08]: KB4521863
    [09]: KB4524569
    [10]: KB4525419
    [11]: KB4528759
    [12]: KB4537759
    [13]: KB4538674
    [14]: KB4532693

    I just recently in the last few days fitted a new Seagate Ironwolf drive in the system and noticed it gets this error on the drive properties;

    Device SCSI\Disk&Ven_ST4000VN&Prod_008-2DR166\4&36ed403c&0&020000 was not migrated due to partial or ambiguous match.
    Last Device Instance Id: USBSTOR\Disk&Ven_SanDisk&Prod_SDDR-113&Rev_1.00\6333011111B1&0
    Class Guid: {4d36e967-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
    Location Path:
    Migration Rank: 0xF000FC00FFFFF130
    Present: false
    Status: 0xC0000719

    I did run a short self test and a long test using seagate diagnostic tool and it produced passes for both. Any ideas what this migration error actually means?
     
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  13. LoadsaMoney

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    Uninstalled before it goes **** up :p
     
  14. mrbell1984

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    it might not though because if it's worked it's more than likely ok.
     
  15. LoadsaMoney

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    Never know though, better to be safe than sorry :D
     
  16. Elevon

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    If it's working fine then leave it alone, personally I don't try to fix things if they are working ok. FYI all updates seem fine on my Win10 so I leave them alone. :)

    Microsoft just seem to be getting more sloppy as time goes on, more testing and better quality control would go a long way.
     
  17. LoadsaMoney

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    Another ones causing mayhem too, KB4532693 :p

     
  18. Rroff

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    Way past time they got back to basics, got the core of the OS robust (could take a lot of lessons from RISC OS actually) including the core of the UI/shell, user friendly and decently customisable by the end user. Split updates out again so that security updates can be applied quicker and in a more streamlined fashion and users better able to manage feature updates at their leisure and end user having better control over drivers, etc. and I could go on.

    Still don't know what they were thinking with file explorer either it is such a mess of ideas put in at different times by different people (I assume from the mishmash of approaches) - Windows 7's one is pretty close to spot on other than some bugs with refreshing contents and lack of the advanced file copy dialogues, etc. that were introduced in 8 onwards (some other features for working with multiple files wouldn't go amiss either such as advanced renaming of multiple files). For touch, etc. the left hand navigation pane could have an option to display large icons there for functions that could be either touched or dragged and dropped onto and an additional entry in the lists in the navigation pane containing a list of currently opened folders so you can drag and drop a file inside its own window into another location to copy, etc.

    If they are going to go with the new style of Start Menu (which I like in theory) then there needs to be a higher level of customisation over icons and groups including proper group management features (even Windows 3 did this) as well as the information displayed on tiles, etc. with in a general sense a bit of utilising it like the home screen on a phone.

    Then generally update the look of the OS or at least some additional customisation options so that it doesn't overall look like something the intern whipped up in mspaint on their lunch break. Sure 7's look is a bit dated now but most of the graphics look like they were professionally designed and fit together well and overall has a much sleeker presentation.
     
  19. wiiija

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    Ouch! I still haven't had a single problem, I must be the luckiest man alive :D
     
  20. mrbell1984

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    I can echo that. :) Got to be hardware specific. Certain hardware gets certain problems.