Windows 11 is garbage

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So, as per some earlier posts, I'm in the process of commissioning a new machine, on which my dual-boot of two Win 10 OSes are being replaced with Win 11

Been at this on and off for about a week now and have come to the inescapable conclusion that Windows 11 is just garbage.

So much stuff has been nerfed, unnecessarily tweaked or just plain broken compared to 10. It feels like 10 reached a good level of maturity and now Microsoft felt the need to just mess with stuff to produce something "new" in Windows 11.

My biggest gripe so far is the nerfed start menu and task bar which are far less functional than before.
Folder grouping is also driving me insane. In Windows 10 you could disable this, apply to all folders and it just stuck. This is utterly broken in Windows 11 and just keeps re-enabling itself.
Several things now take additional clicks/selections compared to 10 which is a retrograde step.
Some annoying notifications simply can't be disabled.

I'm sure a myriad more "features" will come out of the woodwork as I progress.
Frankly I'd much prefer to stay with 10 but that's not a long-term solution.
 
Armageus said:
Except on the occasions when updates break it, and you boot to no desktop :(
Happened twice to me with different updates before switching to StartAllBack

(But again it would be better if it wasn't just **** in the first place)
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Yeah, there are numerous aftermarket gadgets aimed at restoring missing functionality, especially around the Start menu and task bar, the problem is they're not 100% reliable and are more than likely to break as the OS is updated.

I even had a nightmare installing the damn OS today. I'm installing two totally separate OSes for dual-boot. Installed the first last week using a 21H2 ISO and then updated to 23H2 absolutely fine. Today, doing the exact same process, it totally refused to offer me the 23H2 update or even 22H2 so I was stuck on 21H1.
In the end I had to wipe it and download a fresh ISO of 23H2.

Utter garbage Microsoft.
 
mrk said:
I mean you could just drag out of the flyout menu the icons to the main tray area and then all icons will always stay there. aka: Show all. I did this on day 1 and not a single time has another system tray icon not always shown in the main tray like it should have done:

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Or just toggle here:

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I only discovered you could drag those icons around when I went searching for a solution after most of them disappeared from the above menu.

I have to deal with Microsoft stuff at work too and my personal mantra has always been "loads of functionality, zero usability".
 
GaryTheSnail said:
So out of the box with all updates do you not think it’s usable?

It’s probably a preference that people have that they want more stuff (which is fine) and things they used in the past are long gone.

I would personally say it’s usable once it’s been upgraded to 23H2 out of the box.

I’ve done a 23H2 usb boot for fresh format installs and now I don’t feel the need to shout at it any more. I did once upon a time though.
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By "zero usability" I'm referring to Microsoft's interface design which is consitently awful. Nothing is obvious or intuitive and, whilst there's usually a way of doing something, actually finding out what it is is usually a nightmare.

Of course, once you get used to it and know where everything is, you're fine, but the "learning curve" is atrocious and very frustrating.

I thing the main gripe with Windows 11 isn't so much the few things that have actually been removed but rather the number of thing which have just been moved or changed for no apparent reason, which serves no purpose other than to frustrate users.
It's akin to your local supermarket rearranging the shelves every now and then just when you'd worked out where everything was.
 
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