Windows 11 Possible on 3570K? Other Options?

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I upgraded my main PC to AM5 last year and decided to use the parts from my previous PC to build a second one that I can use for gaming when staying at my parents' house.

I've just finished that build, installed Windows 10 and got it all working fine. Managed some decent overclocking of the CPU and GPU too.

Now I'm wondering what will happen when W10 support ends later this year? Is there any way for me to upgrade to Windows 11?
Should I just stay on W10 and forget about it? Switch to some variant of Linux instead?

The main game I play is Age of Empires II DE (online multiplayer) - a Microsoft game which I've heard is tricky to get working on Linux.

Relevant specs:
Intel i5 3570K
MSI Z77MA-G45
16GB DDR3 1600
ASUS DirectCU II OC 660ti 2GB
2 x 250GB SSDs

The motherboard has a TPM module socket (no module) but I believe this only supports TPM 1.2 so I think it's pointless me buying a module.

What are your thoughts?
 
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Thanks. Seems straightforward. Are there any disadvantages to using this method? I heard that Microsoft may choose to implement a watermark on machines that don't meet the requirements for example, though I guess we don't know if that will actually happen.
 
I very much doubt they'll change anything during the lifetime of 24H2. If more severe restrictions/bypass blocking is implemented, I'd expect it to be in a future named version as opposed to any 24H2 update.

It's a bit like the CPU restriction I mentioned. CPUs without SSE 4.2 can run 23H2 and earlier versions of windows 11. It would be extremely mean of them to release any 23H2 update that moves the goalposts on this. Instead they just said 24H2 is not for you.
 
You could try Linux for sure. Reports on Protondb say it’s playable including multiplayer but ymmv of course. Shouldn’t be too difficult to find out. Some threads in the Linux forum on distros to choose, but maybe starting out Mint or Ubuntu would work.
 
5ubsonic said:
Thanks. Seems straightforward. Are there any disadvantages to using this method? I heard that Microsoft may choose to implement a watermark on machines that don't meet the requirements for example, though I guess we don't know if that will actually happen.
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If use Rufus you won't get the watermark as the checks are bypassed altogether, rather than failing the check but opting to continue
 
alex24 said:
You could try Linux for sure. Reports on Protondb say it’s playable including multiplayer but ymmv of course. Shouldn’t be too difficult to find out. Some threads in the Linux forum on distros to choose, but maybe starting out Mint or Ubuntu would work.
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Maybe I'll give one of the Linux distros a go when I can find some time. Would be interesting to test out.
 
The main thing you need to be aware of is that the annual feature updates likely will not install automatically if you install on an unsupported system.

So, if you were to install release 24H2 today you would automatically get monthly security updates through Windows Update until October 2026 (when that version goes EOL). You will likely need to manually install 25H2 (and each subsequent major release); which is not difficult it's just something you need to remember to do before your version drops out of security update support.
 
marc2003 said:
It's not officially supported but you can use a USB creation tool called rufus which will bypass the restrictions.

Download the windows 11 ISO

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows11

https://rufus.ie/en/

https://www.makeuseof.com/rufus-bypass-tpm-secure-boot-requirements-windows-11/

The only actual restriction for older PCs is that the CPU must support SSE 4.2 which your Ivybridge i5 does. I have a haswell which is technically unsupported but works fine.
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Hey, you seem like someone who knows what you are talking about. Could you please verify if, according to your statement, it means that my parent's old Phenom II X4 955 (on an Asus M4A88T-V EVO/USB3) is not upgradeable to Win 11 at all? I think it only has support up to SSE4a. If so, I'll build my old 3570k for them. Thanks!
 
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Try the installer and see if it lets you install Windows 11. If it works, that's great, if not then stick with Windows 10.

The only trouble is you'll have to reinstall Windows 11 every year or so if you want the latest version, or as and when Microsoft stop supporting your current version. For example, Windows 11 21H2 is not longer supported and 22H2 is due to expire in October 2025. 22H2 translates to 2022 half 2, if that helps - so if you installed 24H2, it's support will expire in October 2027.

I've Windows 11 installed on a first gen i5 machine and it mostly runs fine. I don't care about the fact Windows Update works, other than the fact it won't allow feature updates (ie: 23H2 to 24H2) - it works and continues to update, so all's well. There's no point sending a perfectly good laptop to landfill just because Microsoft say so.
 
darael said:
Try the installer and see if it lets you install Windows 11. If it works, that's great, if not then stick with Windows 10.

The only trouble is you'll have to reinstall Windows 11 every year or so if you want the latest version, or as and when Microsoft stop supporting your current version. For example, Windows 11 21H2 is not longer supported and 22H2 is due to expire in October 2025. 22H2 translates to 2022 half 2, if that helps - so if you installed 24H2, it's support will expire in October 2027.

I've Windows 11 installed on a first gen i5 machine and it mostly runs fine. I don't care about the fact Windows Update works, other than the fact it won't allow feature updates (ie: 23H2 to 24H2) - it works and continues to update, so all's well. There's no point sending a perfectly good laptop to landfill just because Microsoft say so.
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Thanks! I'll experiment for the sake of science.
 
We have access to LTSC licences where I work, all sorts of CLAs that would prevent issuing them for this sort of use new, but I wonder if it's possible to get a legitimate used licence from a grey market seller. If they are genuine second hands keys that are no longer in use, they are not illegal but actually the law allows their sale and stops Microsoft blocking their sale. When you buy them second hand you are not beholden to the CLA.

Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC and Windows 10 IoT Enterprise LTSC will continue to receive security updates until 2032. The only difference between the two is the licensing model and the actual OS can do everything the normal Pro can, it just has access to additional enterprise features to lock it down, kiosk mode, etc. But in the default install you wouldn't even know it was any different, still has the same OOBE etc.
 
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