Windows 7 or 10

greenbrucelee · 26 Feb 2018 at 19:30

I am building a new system soon and was wondering if I should use windows 7 or get 10. The reason I ask is that I do still play some older games such as the Elder Scrolls morrowind and Obblivion and I mod them but I'm not sure if those games will work on windows 10. I would be dissapointed if they didn't.

Is it possible to have steam on two partitions? i.e if I had a windows partition so I could play older steam games and a windows 10 partition for new games so I could use DX12

Thanks for any help.

andicole0 · 26 Feb 2018 at 19:44

Windows 10 should run any Win 7 games if you set the comparability correctly.
Andi.

greenbrucelee · 26 Feb 2018 at 19:48

Thanks. Oblivion and Morrowind were xp and before. I know oblivion and morrowind work on win7 but I think its a just sort of thing.

andicole0 · 26 Feb 2018 at 20:17

Steam forums have tips on running games with W10.
Andi.

greenbrucelee · 26 Feb 2018 at 20:21

Thanks will take a look.

Elevon · 26 Feb 2018 at 22:11

greenbrucelee said:
Thanks. Oblivion and Morrowind were xp and before. I know oblivion and morrowind work on win7 but I think its a just sort of thing.

Oblivion runs fine on Win10, I play it all the time, Morrowind should run fine as well.

McBain · 27 Feb 2018 at 10:08

7, without a doubt.

You might have to do some playing to get the install working though, USB3 drivers etc.

andicole0 · 27 Feb 2018 at 10:18

McBain said:
7, without a doubt.

You might have to do some playing to get the install working though, USB3 drivers etc.

Really?
Andi.

McBain · 27 Feb 2018 at 11:21

andicole0 said:
Really?
Andi.

Really with respect to what, the version or the drivers?

Randomface74 · 27 Feb 2018 at 11:24

There's no scenario ever where you should be installing anything other than the latest operating system.

andicole0 · 27 Feb 2018 at 11:28

McBain said:
Really with respect to what, the version or the drivers?

Really as in why 7? 2 versions plus some years of development and security updates on 10.
Andi.

McBain · 27 Feb 2018 at 11:48

billysielu said:
There's no scenario ever where you should be installing anything other than the latest operating system.

Disagree completely, if that was the case I would have had to live with the turd that was Windows 8, no thanks.

andicole0 said:
Really as in why 7? 2 versions plus some years of development and security updates on 10.
Andi.

Those years of development causing all sorts of problems with gaming in 10, the Creators update (forced on me no less) in particular. Thankfully an older build of Windows 10 seems to resolve that, for the time being.

andicole0 · 27 Feb 2018 at 12:33

@McBain Odd I have very few issues with games on 10, most issues come down to developer problems rather than Windows.
Andi.

McBain · 27 Feb 2018 at 12:37

andicole0 said:
@McBain Odd I have very few issues with games on 10, most issues come down to developer problems rather than Windows.
Andi.

I didn't either before the Creators update. Something has gone seriously wrong with it, stuttering, harsh fps drops, GPU usage spikes etc.

I believe it's Nvidia specific, so if you're AMD camp for your GPU that could explain it.

Fairly lengthy thread here if you're interested https://forums.geforce.com/default/...h-fps-drops-since-windows-10-creators-update/

andicole0 · 27 Feb 2018 at 12:40

No I'm an Nvidia user but I do still run my games PC on the Insider Preview program so I might have a more up to date version. Also that PC does nothing other than games so no other apps to affect performance much.
Andi.

MagicBoy · 27 Feb 2018 at 12:50

Depends on what's in the new system. Intel 6th Gen onwards and Ryzen don't officially support OS pre-Windows 10...

Elevon · 27 Feb 2018 at 16:49

McBain said:
7, without a doubt.

You might have to do some playing to get the install working though, USB3 drivers etc.

I disagree, Win7 has less then 2 years end of Life, sooner or later you have to move on, as to Win10 gaming, runs all my old games fine, very happy with it in general gaming wise.

Btw I tried Morrowind so that runs fine as well , just like Oblivion does on 10, so the main two he was concerned about.

For the record, oldest game I play on Win10 is XCOM-Apocalypse which is pre Win98, I use D-Fend to run that game on 10 without problems.

Rroff · 27 Feb 2018 at 17:04

MagicBoy said:
Depends on what's in the new system. Intel 6th Gen onwards and Ryzen don't officially support OS pre-Windows 10...

Skylake/Kaby Lake "works" - you are missing a couple of features but generally its not a big deal to get it working with some minor tweaking in some cases - with some Kaby Lake and most Coffee Lake though its potentially a non-starter and can be extremely non-trivial to get working especially with USB drivers in some cases.

Aside from the odd antiquity Windows 7 is a way better OS than 10 - there are some areas 10 does well but majorly let down by other areas and reliability with any update has completely gone out the window :| (if you don't believe me see the official Windows 10 discussion forums - over the last few months its gone ballistic with people complaining because their PC just doesn't work proper past <X> update).

Deleted member 77746 · 27 Feb 2018 at 17:06

Windows 7 doesn't have updates now does it? Windows 7 probably has better compatibility now since a lot of the bugs got ironed out but 10 is still been developed.

MagicBoy · 27 Feb 2018 at 17:54

Rroff said:
Skylake/Kaby Lake "works" - you are missing a couple of features but generally its not a big deal to get it working with some minor tweaking in some cases - with some Kaby Lake and most Coffee Lake though its potentially a non-starter and can be extremely non-trivial to get working especially with USB drivers in some cases.

Aside from the odd antiquity Windows 7 is a way better OS than 10 - there are some areas 10 does well but majorly let down by other areas and reliability with any update has completely gone out the window :| (if you don't believe me see the official Windows 10 discussion forums - over the last few months its gone ballistic with people complaining because their PC just doesn't work proper past <X> update).

I did drop in the word "officially". Don't get me started - I'm an SCCM admin, so I get exposure to all the Windows update nastiness on a grand scale...

I'm actually using Windows 7 here on a officially sanctioned Skylake ThinkPad - one of the handful of machines on the list...

mrbell1984 said:
Windows 7 doesn't have updates now does it? Windows 7 probably has better compatibility now since a lot of the bugs got ironed out but 10 is still been developed.

Windows 7 is getting security updates until January 2020. That said the quality of the current monthly rollups is utter garbage. As with everything coming out of Microsoft at the moment they're not QA'ing any code properly.