Windows 7 X64 Install amount?
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If your are going to put common apps such as office on the same drive, then you want a 64gb minimum, my 64gb has 25gb left, after installing W7 64bit Ultimate and office, media player classic, and a few codec and video encoding apps plus graphics software PSP and Nero....
My W7 pro x64 install + office + other programs photoshop etc comes in at under 20GB.
Although that is a fairly light install: the pagefile, all user files and games etc are elsewhere. Also hibernation and system restore are disabled - these would take up a fair amount of space (RAM size for hib. and as much as you give system restore)
Although that is a fairly light install: the pagefile, all user files and games etc are elsewhere. Also hibernation and system restore are disabled - these would take up a fair amount of space (RAM size for hib. and as much as you give system restore)
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Yeah you're looking at around 8-9GB then factor in the hibernation file which will be equal to your installed RAM and also the pagefile which by default will be around equal to your installed RAM too.
Bear in mind as well that some applications try to install silently directly to C:/ drive without asking. I originally set up win 7 64 on a 20gb partition but found that was rapidly filled up.
Although I don't have an SSD, I would imagine that given their relativly smaller size the whole drive should be given over to the OS and farm off what you can (page file, backups and new installs etc) elsewhere.
Although I don't have an SSD, I would imagine that given their relativly smaller size the whole drive should be given over to the OS and farm off what you can (page file, backups and new installs etc) elsewhere.
I had this dilemma a few weeks ago when the Intel 40GB SSDs came out. To cut a long story short, I ended up going with the 80GB X-25M G2. Basically whole point of having a fast drive is to load applications, not necessarily the OS.
And believe me, I really didn't want to spend nearly 200 quid on a hard drive - but I'm glad I did now. Just something to bear in mind.
And believe me, I really didn't want to spend nearly 200 quid on a hard drive - but I'm glad I did now. Just something to bear in mind.
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How? The hibernate file stores the entire contents of RAM, I've never seen a setting to reduce the size of it.
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Found out you type PowerCfg.exe /HIBERNATE /SIZE 50-100 in an elevated command prompt to change the size of the hibernation file, the default size is 75% of installed RAM.
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Home Premium comes in at 17gb will all my drivers on there as well.
Only annoying thing is that my Kingston 30GB SSD, only appears to have 27.8 available in total.
Only annoying thing is that my Kingston 30GB SSD, only appears to have 27.8 available in total.
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After a couple days messing around trying to get vlite to work I've finally got my actually paid for an official copy of windows 7 down to a 5GB install, excluding pagefile and hibernation, though I disable hibernation, it takes about 25 seconds to boot from scratch anyway, see entirely no need for hibernation.
Its a shame a default install is around double the size and vlite was designed for Vista and theres so many steps needed to get rid of stuff from a Windows 7 install. Even with 5gb's theres a 2.5gb winsxs folder full of useless drivers, its a minefield getting rid of them, though a lot are possible. When you ditch certain things you start losing functionality and it won't install if you remove the wrong ones. Well done to the guys slowly working through what you can and can't remove.
Keep in mind I did a default install on a virtual server to check and it was around 10gb and that winsxs file was around 5 gigs and some 50k+files and tonnes of folders, its now down to 25k files and 7k folders and half the size. Whoever worked out the easy stuff to remove took a long time
Theres far more extreme lists of things you can remove, my actuall install folder is around 1.5gb, but I've heard people having an install folder that will fit on a cd.
Its insane the amount of useless pap they make you install, massive compatibility for old hardware 1 in 20million people will use on a newer windows 7 based PC just isn't worth it.
I bet you could happily have a 2GB install folder with full functionality, or they could give out a decent tool for making your own install disc with what you actually NEED on it for those that want to. the vlite website has links to forums with guides on how to do it if you want to. My windows 7 install from fresh certainly seems slicker than usual.
Its just a shame MS don't fully support letting you install what you want at a size you want.
ALso very happy I got my 2 64gb crucials when they were £95.
EDIT:- I'm sitting here using a Vista computer while installing windows on my other comp. This is clearly an older install but damn, my windows folder alone is now 21.6gb with 91.5k files in it, the "new" Windows 7 one is 5gb and 30k files, the majority of which are in that damn winsxs folder. Windows 7 default was a huge improvement over Vista, but theres still miles left they can cut out.
Its a shame a default install is around double the size and vlite was designed for Vista and theres so many steps needed to get rid of stuff from a Windows 7 install. Even with 5gb's theres a 2.5gb winsxs folder full of useless drivers, its a minefield getting rid of them, though a lot are possible. When you ditch certain things you start losing functionality and it won't install if you remove the wrong ones. Well done to the guys slowly working through what you can and can't remove.
Keep in mind I did a default install on a virtual server to check and it was around 10gb and that winsxs file was around 5 gigs and some 50k+files and tonnes of folders, its now down to 25k files and 7k folders and half the size. Whoever worked out the easy stuff to remove took a long time
Theres far more extreme lists of things you can remove, my actuall install folder is around 1.5gb, but I've heard people having an install folder that will fit on a cd.
Its insane the amount of useless pap they make you install, massive compatibility for old hardware 1 in 20million people will use on a newer windows 7 based PC just isn't worth it.
I bet you could happily have a 2GB install folder with full functionality, or they could give out a decent tool for making your own install disc with what you actually NEED on it for those that want to. the vlite website has links to forums with guides on how to do it if you want to. My windows 7 install from fresh certainly seems slicker than usual.
Its just a shame MS don't fully support letting you install what you want at a size you want.
ALso very happy I got my 2 64gb crucials when they were £95.
EDIT:- I'm sitting here using a Vista computer while installing windows on my other comp. This is clearly an older install but damn, my windows folder alone is now 21.6gb with 91.5k files in it, the "new" Windows 7 one is 5gb and 30k files, the majority of which are in that damn winsxs folder. Windows 7 default was a huge improvement over Vista, but theres still miles left they can cut out.
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It's almost impossible to get the real size of the winsxs folder since a lot of the files in there are junctions to other files on the hard drive. According to explorer my entire Windows folder is taking up more space than what's on my entire C drive because it's counting the space for winsxs wrong.
I'd say you want to go for 64GB minimum when it comes to SSD, as mentioned ideally you want to be running your Apps off it (or another SSD of course) and you do tend to get extra stuff wanting to use c:\ for temp files like windows updates and the like.