WinFS gone for good

It's a shame as I was looking forward to a refresh.

Do you think they really will scrap it? I think after all the money and time invested and that it is still a pretty good idea, that they will restart it again once they either find the performance issue or they might tweek it differently to over come the problems? Be silly just to scrap it?
 
If you read the arcticle, most of the technologies are being put into other products, namely SQL Server an ADO.NET.

They're been working on this for nearly 10 years, haven't they? First announced as part of Cairo (and they still haven't got there!).
 
NathanE said:
After so much progress they've decided to scrap it :( I've got a feeling the underlying reason was performance. Or maybe priorities have simply changed at Microsoft in recent years.
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There has been some speculation that it was always Gates' baby, and that his 'departure' has allowed them to 'de-scope' it. Personally, I just think it's down to mismanagement, like the general debacle that has been Vista.

Shame.

arty
 
Never really 'got' the point of it anyway. I like files and folders. Homogenous clumps of data stored in a database somewhere just seems like an excuse to lose data (yes, I know people forget which folder they put stuff in too). And yes, I do know about the likes of Spotlight, but that's still a layer on top of a traditional filesystem.

No doubt someone will point out what I've missed, as I don't tend to stay up-to-date with the industry these days - just like a lot of other things I wish I could do but don't.
 
It is a shame to hear they are dropping it.

How far do you think NTFS will take them? Surely they will have to enhance the Windows File System soon.
 
There's some sort of feature list here:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_feature_focus.asp

Not entirely exhaustive though. Some of my favourites are new networking stack built from the ground up with native IPv6 support - has shown up to 40x improvements in testing. New audio stack and controls on a per app basis rather than the non-sensical sliders we've had for years. The moving of boths this audio stack and the graphics into usermode mean that BSOD should be even less likely - a dodgy sound driver can't bring the system down anymore, for example. The Mobility Center should help laptop users leaving your network (something that was a real pain - offline files is part of that, and works much better now).

There are lots of 'little' things I've noticed and like a lot - Fast User Switching for domain logins, the ability to resize partitions on the fly using Computer Management...
 
csmager said:
There's some sort of feature list here:

http://www.winsupersite.com/showcase/winvista_feature_focus.asp

Not entirely exhaustive though. Some of my favourites are new networking stack built from the ground up with native IPv6 support - has shown up to 40x improvements in testing. New audio stack and controls on a per app basis rather than the non-sensical sliders we've had for years. The moving of boths this audio stack and the graphics into usermode mean that BSOD should be even less likely - a dodgy sound driver can't bring the system down anymore, for example. The Mobility Center should help laptop users leaving your network (something that was a real pain - offline files is part of that, and works much better now).

There are lots of 'little' things I've noticed and like a lot - Fast User Switching for domain logins, the ability to resize partitions on the fly using Computer Management...
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I'm still not convinced this adds up to a whole new OS which has taken ages to get out of the door. But thanks for the info :)
 
Hades said:
I'm still not convinced this adds up to a whole new OS which has taken ages to get out of the door. But thanks for the info :)
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Go program the code yourself then... The fact is, Vista is a major improvement over XP for the majority of its users.
 
Berserker said:
Never really 'got' the point of it anyway. I like files and folders. Homogenous clumps of data stored in a database somewhere just seems like an excuse to lose data (yes, I know people forget which folder they put stuff in too). And yes, I do know about the likes of Spotlight, but that's still a layer on top of a traditional filesystem.

No doubt someone will point out what I've missed, as I don't tend to stay up-to-date with the industry these days - just like a lot of other things I wish I could do but don't.
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WinFS sits on top of NTFS, and is nothing more than an abstraction layer. I predict their will be more of these abstraction file layers in future, but they will still need the underlying filesystem.

Its not a bad idea really, the closest non vaporware atm is gnome storage.
ZFS on the other hand looks promising.
 
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garyh said:
Go program the code yourself then... The fact is, Vista is a major improvement over XP for the majority of its users.
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Exactly. Finally somebody who agrees :cool: Gets really boring with all the people putting Microsoft down- obviously they are in the public eye a lot and as soon as they make a slight mistake there is somebody to pounce on top of it and start whinging about how crap Microsoft is- to be honest though, if you could do it any better, then go for it!!

/rant over

I personally didn't see the need to update the windows file system anyway- they're doing it just fine with files and folders but I can't claim to understand much of it at the moment :) :o
 
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