Wireless Router Question - Range

Tonytank

Tonytank

Tonytank

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Morning Everyone.

I appreciate that this is a rather dull question but I am hopelessly out of my depth when it comes to networks and routers and I just need a piece of purchasing advice.

So here my situation.

I currently live in a small office building on my parents land/property.

The router for our internet connection (BT) is in my building as I use it mainly. At the moment we use the basic home hub router that BT provide.

Up until recently my mother has been able to use a wireless connection in the house which is roughly 60 meters away. It's not great but for browsing it seems to work most of the time. But now its letting her down more and more.

So, we need to do something about that.

As this building and the house are on different electrical phases we are unable to use a Power Adapter. We had floated the idea of running a single cable but that feels messy and ultimately a bit botched for just one laptop.

So, if there a router that will comfortable support that range?

There doesn't have to be HD streaming or anything like that, just browsing and reading emails.

Can anyone recommend a router that will do this please?

Please and thank you.

Kind Regards,

Rich
 
A cheap WiFi range extender/repeater
Might be enough
Ie you plug it into whatever socket in their house is closest to the router
And it repeats the signal
 
The router isn't in the house my man. It's in a property roughly 60 meters away.

Also the two buildings are on different electrical phases so Network power adapters/repeaters wont function.
 
Tonytank said:
The router isn't in the house my man. It's in a property roughly 60 meters away.

Also the two buildings are on different electrical phases so Network power adapters/repeaters wont function.
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Yeah I know
Router in your property
Extender goes in theirs in whatever plug socket is closest to your property
It's a WiFi repeater not a power line adapter doesn't need the electric wires
So it grabs the WiFi signal from your property then sends it through their property
Does that make sense?
 
Tonytank said:
Ah yes, I see your point now.

Something worth considering.

A WiFi repeater won't need to be on the same phase then?
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Nope
And a cheap one should be under 20 quid
Was in a holiday cottage in Devon
Same thing owners house near cottage
With router in it
Bad WiFi signal in cottage
18 quid extender from argos solved it
And the owners paid for it too once they knew
They didn't realise you could do that and cheaply too
 
Do you have line of sight between the buildings? If so you can use something like this: https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire_dish between the two and at your parents' property hook it up to an access point to give them WiFi over your internet at decent speeds (well as decent as the access point will support). Next best thing to running an ethernet cable but will be considerably more expensive than @Mcnumpty2323 's solution which, if it works, will probably be sufficient for your use case. I'd have thought 60m was too far for a repeater to latch on to a signal but if your parents were just about getting Wifi anyway then it's got to be worth a shot and little financial risk if it doesn't work.
 
Given what the op needs
I didn't want to go too extreme or expensive I would try the cheap easy option first rather than go all out
Though if the cost isn't an issue by all means go heavy duty on it
 
And I assumed since they were getting Internet access at one point
That a repeater might work
If it had been a new installation or more than basic browsing requirements I probably would have suggested differently
My solution is cheap, easy to try and
If doesn't work no great loss
 
BigT said:
Do you have line of sight between the buildings? If so you can use something like this: https://mikrotik.com/product/wireless_wire_dish between the two and at your parents' property hook it up to an access point to give them WiFi over your internet at decent speeds (well as decent as the access point will support). Next best thing to running an ethernet cable but will be considerably more expensive than @Mcnumpty2323 's solution which, if it works, will probably be sufficient for your use case. I'd have thought 60m was too far for a repeater to latch on to a signal but if your parents were just about getting Wifi anyway then it's got to be worth a shot and little financial risk if it doesn't work.
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You’d use the 60GHz dish to go 60m? Seems extreme but it would work. Line of sight or not. It would work.
 
WJA96 said:
That’s not heavy duty...

This is heavy duty.
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Lol sure is
Never went that extreme
But it's surprising how far your router signal can carry lot of people assume it doesn't leave their property basically
Back when I had the neighbours from hell
I had a lot of fun with a home made biquad :D:D
 
Mcnumpty2323 said:
Lol sure is
Never went that extreme
But it's surprising how far your router signal can carry lot of people assume it doesn't leave their property basically
Back when I had the neighbours from hell
I had a lot of fun with a home made biquad :D:D
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Did you make it from a Fray Bentos tin and a wire coat hanger? That was the classic design from Practical Wireless. Ah. The good old day’s!
 
WJA96 said:
Did you make it from a Fray Bentos tin and a wire coat hanger? That was the classic design from Practical Wireless. Ah. The good old day’s!
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Lol
No just a square bit of copper
Not used it in years but still got it just in case ever get more neighbours from hell
Would have loved to have seen the look on their face when I told their network printer to do 200 pages of gay pron at 3am one time :D:D
 
Nanostations doing a P2P link is a decent value option and very capable as long as you have LoS and a reasonably clear fresnel zone, repeaters are horrible and should be avoided.
 
Avalon said:
Nanostations doing a P2P link is a decent value option and very capable as long as you have LoS and a reasonably clear fresnel zone, repeaters are horrible and should be avoided.
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Interesting. My first reaction was "He's only going 60m!" My Fresnel zone calculator starts at 250m. Have you seen Fresnel effects at such short range? It's not something I would consider normally but if it's a potential issue then I'll gladly learn and adapt.

Nanostations are definitely a good value option. They would be harder to set up than the Mikrotik Wireless Wire which comes pre-matched and under 100m don't really care too much about LoS. Or even walls or windows.
 
WJA96 said:
Interesting. My first reaction was "He's only going 60m!" My Fresnel zone calculator starts at 250m. Have you seen Fresnel effects at such short range? It's not something I would consider normally but if it's a potential issue then I'll gladly learn and adapt.

Nanostations are definitely a good value option. They would be harder to set up than the Mikrotik Wireless Wire which comes pre-matched and under 100m don't really care too much about LoS. Or even walls or windows.
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In extreme cases fresnel zone issues have been a thing for me on much shorter runs: https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...ed-in-a-less-than-ideal-environment.18700528/
 
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