Wolfenstien 2 Vulkan benchmarks:

GoogalyMoogaly · 26 Oct 2017 at 22:39

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
Wut are you smoking?? I have a GTX1080 - or is everything for you a dork war??

What does the card you own have to do with this?

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 26 Oct 2017 at 22:41

GoogalyMoogaly said:
So are we ignoring the 1080Ti now because it doesn't fit the results we want?

I don't see how it's a win to AMD when there's an Nvidia card at the top of the graph.

"it has to cost between this much and this much, have 8GB of RAM and have 64 in the name somewhere or it doesn't count"

GoogalyMoogaly said:
What does the card you own have to do with this?

What's this "we"?? Why do I need a Vega64?? Explain this to me??

You seem very annoyed - you OK??

Edit!!

What pictures soothes you more?? Tell,as next time I will make sure I will post the more soothing picture.

I personally like this one of the GTX1080.

Not biased one bit I tell you!

Muhammad.Abdelhameed · 26 Oct 2017 at 22:53

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
So in 4 areas tested,Vega64 seems to edge the GTX1080 in three of them and in two of them is close to a GTX1080TI. In one area it looses.

PCGH: it's a tie between 1080 and V64,
ComputerBase: It's a tie also, sometimes the V64 wins, sometime the 1080 wins
GameGPU: V64 wins over 1080 by ~10%
In all cases the 1080Ti wins, and by a large margin. More data is needed to determine who is winner between 1080 and V64.

Tom|Nbk · 26 Oct 2017 at 23:09

Sits back with his 1080ti and grins, a monster yet again being a monster and when they bring out the next monster I'll buy that too.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 26 Oct 2017 at 23:12

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:

Muhammad.Abdelhameed said:
PCGH: it's a tie between 1080 and V64,
ComputerBase: It's a tie also, sometimes the V64 wins, sometime the 1080 wins
GameGPU: V64 wins
In all cases the 1080Ti wins, and by a large margin. More data is needed to determine who is winner between 1080 and V64.

In the two Computerbase.de results,the GTX1080 looses by a big margin and wins by a big margin,but in the place where the GTX1080 thrashes the Vega64,all the AMD cards get beaten,even down the range.

In the GameGPU results,the Vega64 wins by a big margin. In the PCGH article,it does still edge ahead though and remember these are AIB models tested too.

Plus in two of the 4 areas tested so far,the Vega64 comes within 10% of the GTX1080TI,and I on purpose didn't link the Core i7 6700 results for GameGPU as it showed with that the GPUs both were tied,which would have biased it towards AMD.

If anything I am still surprised it can even get close to a GTX1080TI in two areas,especially since the card is more GTX1080 level in the first place.

If you also look down the range,you will notice the RX580 shows three out of four wins against the GTX1060. Even looking at that it makes me wonder if AMD have even got RPM working properly,since the RX580 seems to have none of that and still most times seems to beat the GTX1060.

But it has been rather weird the last week- AMD having solid performance in a Nvidia title(Destiny 2) and Nvidia having solid performance in an AMD title.

Tom|Nbk said:
Sits back with his 1080ti and grins, a monster yet again being a monster and when they bring out the next monster I'll buy that too.

Probably a newer CPU too would be useful - would think in some titles a faster CPU might make it even more of a monster!!

Heck,I find even the GTX1080 a solid card at qHD,and some of the recent deals under £450 have made it a good deal too.

Tom|Nbk · 26 Oct 2017 at 23:50

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
In the two Computerbase.de results,the GTX1080 looses by a big margin and wins by a big margin,but in the place where the GTX1080 thrashes the Vega64,all the AMD cards get beaten,even down the range.

In the GameGPU results,the Vega64 wins by a big margin. In the PCGH article,it does still edge ahead though and remember these are AIB models tested too.

Plus in two of the 4 areas tested so far,the Vega64 comes within 10% of the GTX1080TI,and I on purpose didn't link the Core i7 6700 results for GameGPU as it showed with that the GPUs both were tied,which would have biased it towards AMD.

If anything I am still surprised it can even get close to a GTX1080TI in two areas,especially since the card is more GTX1080 level in the first place.

If you also look down the range,you will notice the RX580 shows three out of four wins against the GTX1060. Even looking at that it makes me wonder if AMD have even got RPM working properly,since the RX580 seems to have none of that and still most times seems to beat the GTX1060.

But it has been rather weird the last week- AMD having solid performance in a Nvidia title(Destiny 2) and Nvidia having solid performance in an AMD title.

Probably a newer CPU too would be useful - would think in some titles a faster CPU might make it even more of a monster!!

Heck,I find even the GTX1080 a solid card at qHD,and some of the recent deals under £450 have made it a good deal too.

Gaming at 4k makes a new cpu next to not worth it for me, I had Ryzen but cancelled. I watched a guy on youtube put a 1080 into an old 750 i5 rig and the difference was around 5fps if that at 4k compared to newer CPU's so I completely changed my mind on it.

CAT-THE-FIFTH · 26 Oct 2017 at 23:51

Tom|Nbk said:
Gaming at 4k makes a new cpu next to not worth it for me, I had Ryzen but cancelled. I watched a guy on youtube put a 1080 into an old 750 i5 rig and the difference was around 5fps if that at 4k so I completely changed my mind on it.

Ahh,you are at 4K. Only at qHD myself so this current card is plenty for me!

jigger · 26 Oct 2017 at 23:57

AthlonXP1800 said:
Surprised to see 1080 Ti still hold performance king in all resolutions.

How really very embarrassed to see what Rapid Packed Math can do to games, absolutely useless and massive waste of time. What a failure.

Look like big poor Vega for a AMD sponsored Vulkan title RTG used most advanced and very expensive newer utter useless technologies like HBM2, HBCC, Rapid Packed Math, Deferred Renderer, Primitive Binning etc that would still not able to outperformed big Pascal in 2017 and upcoming little Volta and big Volta in 2018.

GoogalyMoogaly · 27 Oct 2017 at 00:03

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
What's this "we"?? Why do I need a Vega64?? Explain this to me??

You seem very annoyed - you OK??

From what I can tell you keep saying "I have a 1080" as though that means you can't be biased towards AMD or something.

I'm struggling to see how a card that is 2nd in the charts "wins"...

jigger · 27 Oct 2017 at 00:06

GoogalyMoogaly said:
I'm struggling to see how a card that is 2nd in the charts "wins"...

Don't read the Forza motorsport thread. 3rd wins.

Muhammad.Abdelhameed · 27 Oct 2017 at 00:14

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
In the GameGPU results,the Vega64 wins by a big margin. In the PCGH article,it does still edge ahead though and remember these are AIB models tested too.

All are AIB models, even Vega. It's a tie. We have 2 tie cases and 1 Vega win over the 1080. I need more data before calling any final winners, also remember NVIDIA didn't yet release any game ready drivers for the title.

Rroff · 27 Oct 2017 at 00:17

jigger said:
Don't read the Forza motorsport thread. 3rd wins.

I'm not sure barely beating what is basically an overpriced mid-range card is really a win.

Tute · 27 Oct 2017 at 01:20

Or, how about anyone with a card equal to or better than an RX480/GTX1060 "wins" given you can expect perfectly decent framerates?

Gregster · 27 Oct 2017 at 03:45

So is Vega beating the recently released 1080?

LtMatt · 27 Oct 2017 at 06:01

Don't count all your chickens for they may not have hatched, just yet.

CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
GameGPU tested it and saw a win for AMD:

http://gamegpu.com/action-/-fps-/-tps/wolfenstein-ii-the-new-colossus-test-gpu-cpu

Results seem to vary quite a bit.

So in 4 areas tested,Vega64 seems to edge the GTX1080 in three of them and in two of them is close to a GTX1080TI. In one area it looses.

However,even the Polaris cards loose in that one area,so there is something going on which affects all the AMD cards.

Not bad.

My advice to a few, don't count your chickens just yet, for they may not have hatched at this time.

JediFragger · 27 Oct 2017 at 07:07

AMDMatt said:
My advice to a few, don't count your chickens just yet, for they may not have hatched at this time.

Advice so good he felt the need to say it twice

Brazo · 27 Oct 2017 at 08:21

Muhammad.Abdelhameed said:
All are AIB models, even Vega. It's a tie. We have 2 tie cases and 1 Vega win over the 1080. I need more data before calling any final winners, also remember NVIDIA didn't yet release any game ready drivers for the title.

No I think we should jump to conclusions now. It’s not like the forza thread went south for AMD after Shankly and Co fell for click bait!

LtMatt · 27 Oct 2017 at 08:38

JediFragger said:
Advice so good he felt the need to say it twice

Hey it was early lol.

docsonic · 27 Oct 2017 at 08:55

Runs like a dream with my 56 - only downside I now have to go to work:/ Could not find the API toggle though - is vulkan enabled by default for vega?

HEADRAT · 27 Oct 2017 at 09:07

hornetstinger said:
Well if it's anything like Doom, it just crashes to desktop in Vulkan mode with my ATI 480..

I had a problem that if I enabled VSYNC in the DOOM settings with the Vulkan renderer than it would crash, if I removed VSYNC then it works fine