Wonder if firefox will ever be compatable with all sites?

Phil2008 · 8 Nov 2009 at 17:08

Even the ie tab plugin for firefox doesn't correctly display things properly on sites. For example, for some reason when your selling something on ebay and doing the description, the underline wont turn off in firefox, The ietab thing fixes that prob, but when you review what your selling in firefox, the fonts in the discription is all messed up, but looks fine in ie. So Ive uinstalled ie tab, and Im just loading up ie, when I sell stuff on ebay from now on

I really would have thought firefox would have been more compatible with common sites by now, cos firefox has been going for years?

scaramanga182 · 8 Nov 2009 at 17:16

This is more down to poor coding from site developers than anything to do with Firefox. Where I work we effectively have to make 3 versions of our sites, the normal standards compliant version which is shown in Firefox, Chrome and Safari. The IE 7/8 version and the IE6 version which is a massive pain.

The sooner Microsoft release a compliant browser and force user upgrades the better, only problem though is far to many corporate systems are designed around IE6 for them to do that.

MarcLister · 8 Nov 2009 at 17:33

scaramanga182 said:
This is more down to poor coding from site developers than anything to do with Firefox.

I was going to say this but you beat me to it.

scaramanga182 said:
Where I work we effectively have to make 3 versions of our sites, the normal standards compliant version which is shown in Firefox, Chrome and Safari. The IE 7/8 version and the IE6 version which is a massive pain.

I assume you mean using several different CSS files for each page and making Firefox, Chome, Safari and Opera etc use one CSS file, IE6 another and IE7/8 another still?

scaramanga182 · 8 Nov 2009 at 17:37

MarcLister said:
I was going to say this but you beat me to it.

I assume you mean using several different CSS files for each page and making Firefox, Chome, Safari and Opera etc use one CSS file, IE6 another and IE7/8 another still?

Yeah, I didn't write that very clearly! I certainly wouldn't want 3 full versions to maintain!

MarcLister · 8 Nov 2009 at 17:53

scaramanga182 said:
Yeah, I didn't write that very clearly! I certainly wouldn't want 3 full versions to maintain!

Hehe.

I was kind of asking in a "is that how you do it?" manner and not a "Didn't you mean this?" manner.

I've only ever done sites with the one CSS file for all. Would explain why I invented new super-mega swearwords consisting of existing rudies.

How exactly would one link say 3 separate CSS files? Declare them as usual but then do that "IF IE8" etc clause?

scaramanga182 · 8 Nov 2009 at 18:58

MarcLister said:
How exactly would one link say 3 separate CSS files? Declare them as usual but then do that "IF IE8" etc clause?

We use Java Script to handle this but that was written by someone else (I've never used Java) so don't know the exact ins and outs of how it works.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful!

MarcLister · 8 Nov 2009 at 19:09

scaramanga182 said:
We use Java Script to handle this but that was written by someone else (I've never used Java) so don't know the exact ins and outs of how it works.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful!

No probs. I'll do some research.

Phil2008 · 8 Nov 2009 at 23:16

Also why cant firefox use the same add-ons or whatever like ie, for uploading pictures to facebook. Cos you have to install jarva if you want to use firefox to upload pics in facebook?

Tripnologist · 9 Nov 2009 at 00:03

MarcLister said:
No probs. I'll do some research.

You need to use conditional comments.
In all honesty though, if a dev needs additional css for IE7 and IE8, they're not very good at their job.

Sin_Chase · 9 Nov 2009 at 00:11

Phil2008 said:
Also why cant firefox use the same add-ons or whatever like ie, for uploading pictures to facebook. Cos you have to install jarva if you want to use firefox to upload pics in facebook?

Because people generally code addons and browser extensions for IE in ActiveX which is an IE only thing (and the devil but hey)

tolien · 9 Nov 2009 at 00:26

Phil2008 said:
Also why cant firefox use the same add-ons or whatever like ie, for uploading pictures to facebook. Cos you have to install jarva if you want to use firefox to upload pics in facebook?

They work exactly the same for me.

IE uses ActiveX and nothing else does, though. Plugins (like Java, Flash etc) have to come in two versions as a consequence of that.