Words Fail me

James_N · 30 Nov 2006 at 23:53

Just doing my usual browsing of PH, and stumbled on this:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=331753&f=47&h=0

I just dont know what to say. £12.5k, just :eek:

Berger · 1 Dec 2006 at 00:00

Yeah thats what a new Corsa costs, people buy them, big wow.

If people didnt buy new cars then there wouldnt be any second hand ones for others to buy cheaper.

CaneyJ · 1 Dec 2006 at 00:01

The rear quarter pillars are massive and doesn't do anything for the rear side profile or the rear vis. The styling still hasn't grown on me at all, its just another fat lardy "supermini" thats the size of a golf.

James_N · 1 Dec 2006 at 00:07

Berger said:
Yeah thats what a new Corsa costs, people buy them, big wow.

If people didnt buy new cars then there wouldnt be any second hand ones for others to buy cheaper.

Its not the fact hes bought a new car, but the price of it!

Assuming the engine range is going to be the same as before, if thats what the 1.4SXI costs, what does the 1.8SRI costs.

And would you pay £12.5k for a 1.4 corsa?

Morba · 1 Dec 2006 at 00:09

rofl, couldnt afford anything flash!

theres a million and one cars that are better and more 'flash' for a lot less (including insurance)!

still, i quite like the look of the new corsa, not as nice as the astra sport hatch, but a nice looking supermini

TheVoice · 1 Dec 2006 at 00:15

Sad. Don't understand why people are so obsessed over new cars like that. Ridiculous amount of money to pay for a Corsa.

Berger · 1 Dec 2006 at 00:16

James_N said:
Its not the fact hes bought a new car, but the price of it!

Assuming the engine range is going to be the same as before, if thats what the 1.4SXI costs, what does the 1.8SRI costs.

And would you pay £12.5k for a 1.4 corsa?

If all i wanted to do was pootle about to the shops for the next few years and up and down the motorway a little bit, why not? Should provide a good few years of hassle free motoring.

Personally i wouldnt as i do quite a few miles and spend a while on the motorway.

But I can see why people buy new cars, seems just about as good as any small sized car to buy new to me, cant say ive driven/looked at buying one myself, but if they were that dire than vauxhaull wouldnt sell them by the bucketload....

Sone · 1 Dec 2006 at 08:16

Berger said:
If all i wanted to do was pootle about to the shops for the next few years and up and down the motorway a little bit, why not? Should provide a good few years of hassle free motoring.

Personally i wouldnt as i do quite a few miles and spend a while on the motorway.

But I can see why people buy new cars, seems just about as good as any small sized car to buy new to me, cant say ive driven/looked at buying one myself, but if they were that dire than vauxhaull wouldnt sell them by the bucketload....

But a 7-8k supermini would do the job, 12.5k :eek:

Lashout_UK · 1 Dec 2006 at 08:29

Haha, I saw that and choked too

wassap · 1 Dec 2006 at 08:31

They all look the same to me, corsa,207,clio etc.

Tbh he could have had a Astra 1.4 sxi (new) for that kind of money.

I dont think having a new car is all that nowadays, i had my first one this year, as soon as i got my 1st stonechip, that was it the new car lustre was gone

i still dont get why folk buy a brand new car, id rather spend my money on a 6-12 month old car, at least its taken some of the depreciation hit, and with common cars you will get the exact spec you want anyway.

triggerthat · 1 Dec 2006 at 08:53

Shocking. His money though. If I had that sort of money to spend, will buy something for around 5K and the a few K on insurance. Don't understand why people feel the need to buy a brand new car.

Tesla · 1 Dec 2006 at 08:54

He is probably referring to being able to afford the monthly repayment as opposed to the ORP of the car.

Firestar_3x · 1 Dec 2006 at 09:18

C'Mon

Makes my blood boil, talk about apealing to the lowest common denominator.

eidolon · 1 Dec 2006 at 09:19

James_N said:
And would you pay £12.5k for a 1.4 corsa?

Not me personally but it's his money and he can spend it how he likes. We don't know his situation (could even be a mobility car) so maybe the Corsa is the best car for his needs (ie. maybe he doesn't want a Mondeo/BMW/Elise/whatever)

Trojan · 1 Dec 2006 at 09:34

James_N said:
Assuming the engine range is going to be the same as before, if thats what the 1.4SXI costs, what does the 1.8SRI costs.

I don't know whether there is going to be an SRI varient but the turbo'd 1.6l 200bhp VXR is predicted to be cheaper than the Clio 197, which retails at £16k.

James_N said:
And would you pay £12.5k for a 1.4 corsa?

Personally, no I wouldn't but then again I (and I suspect most people on this forum) am not your average motorist.

This forum really doesn't seem to understand that some people like to buy their cars new. Yes there is the (sometimes massively) increased cost and depreciation, however there are a lot of reasons that make sense to a lot of people for doing it. Being the first and only owner for example means that you KNOW that the car hasn't been mistreated in the past. You also get the full manufacturers warrenty so that if anything goes wrong at all within the first x amount of years you know that you can get it sorted with no cost to you. Being able to choose the exact spec of the car you want is another bonus that people often desire, such as in this lads case.

At the end of the day, I would always opt for the cheaper, better performing, second hand model, but this doesn't mean that every other motorist should do the same.

lordrobs · 1 Dec 2006 at 09:53

eidolon said:
Not me personally but it's his money and he can spend it how he likes. We don't know his situation (could even be a mobility car) so maybe the Corsa is the best car for his needs (ie. maybe he doesn't want a Mondeo/BMW/Elise/whatever)

Spot on imo.

Using this forum as an example there are people that are willing to spend £450 on a gfx card. To me thats insane but if thats what they want then fair play to them.

Maz · 1 Dec 2006 at 10:34

So he bought a new car, great millions of people do it every year.

Whats the problem?

The_Dark_Side · 1 Dec 2006 at 10:45

Trojan said:
Personally, no I wouldn't but then again I (and I suspect most people on this forum) am not your average motorist.

This forum really doesn't seem to understand that some people like to buy their cars new. Yes there is the (sometimes massively) increased cost and depreciation, however there are a lot of reasons that make sense to a lot of people for doing it. Being the first and only owner for example means that you KNOW that the car hasn't been mistreated in the past. You also get the full manufacturers warrenty so that if anything goes wrong at all within the first x amount of years you know that you can get it sorted with no cost to you. Being able to choose the exact spec of the car you want is another bonus that people often desire, such as in this lads case.

At the end of the day, I would always opt for the cheaper, better performing, second hand model, but this doesn't mean that every other motorist should do the same.

coupled with Eidolon's point you've summed this up perfectly.
to SOME people a manufacturers warranty is everything.
to SOME people a used car is less than acceptable, look at the entire Japanese nation for example.they simply don't have a second hand market for anything except housing as something that's "used" has a social stigma attatched to it as being dirty if you will.
to SOME drivers anything larger than an Astra makes driving hard work for them as they don't feel comfortable.i'd rather they bought small cars from new and felt relaxed and calm than browse this forum and come to the conclusion the only real choice they have is for a used 3/5 series.

the fact is that way too many people in here just cannot see past their own choices and ridicule/savage other people for making decisions that they cannot understand due to their metaphorical tunnel vision approach.

Entai · 1 Dec 2006 at 11:03

The_Dark_Side said:
coupled with Eidolon's point you've summed this up perfectly.
to SOME people a manufacturers warranty is everything.
to SOME people a used car is less than acceptable, look at the entire Japanese nation for example.they simply don't have a second hand market for anything except housing as something that's "used" has a social stigma attatched to it as being dirty if you will.
to SOME drivers anything larger than an Astra makes driving hard work for them as they don't feel comfortable.i'd rather they bought small cars from new and felt relaxed and calm than browse this forum and come to the conclusion the only real choice they have is for a used 3/5 series.

the fact is that way too many people in here just cannot see past their own choices and ridicule/savage other people for making decisions that they cannot understand due to their metaphorical tunnel vision approach.

Here Here well said that man.

Far to many people on these forums think it has to be a huge executive luxobarge to be any good.

Each to their own, the guy bought a car he wanted, it fulfills all of the criteria HE wants in a car so let him be, discuss the car itself and the merits or not of it, but there is no way anyone can comment on his choice of purchase and wether that is a good choice or would have been better if he chose x,y,or z, instead.

That is purely the persons own choice and cannot be commented on by outsiders.

/rant

That is my opinion on the suject anyway.

The_Dark_Side · 1 Dec 2006 at 11:11

Entai said:
That is my opinion on the suject anyway.

they also seem to forget that if the people they belittle so easily actually took their advice then the number of new cars sold would plummet, thereby evaporating their cheap used bargains that they feel so smug about.