Working abroad after finishing my degree

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I'm trying to avoid writing a long, boring post with my life story, but it may turn out that way, so apologies in advance :p

I'm currently in my last few weeks of uni, studying English and French, and should easily graduate with a 2:1. For the last year, I've also worked part time as an area manager for a retail auditing company. I enjoy my job: my colleagues are great, and I was offered the chance of a promotion and full time role once I graduate. However, it requires me to stay in London, and the money they were offering was nowhere near good enough for me to be able to afford to rent even a tiny flat in zone 6, let alone save for a deposit, so I declined.

As part of my degree, I did a placement year teaching English in the south of France and loved every minute of it. The lifestyle was fantastic, and I was paying €500 per month including bills for my own flat by the beach, in a lovely area. However, I don't feel my skills are best suited to teaching: I did a good job, and got an excellent reference from the Lycée, but I enjoy management more and feel I am better at it.

I've done various freelance jobs in the past: chauffeuring, IT support and general admin, and can provide references from solicitors, CEOs, and even a couple of minor American celebrities. I like to think that my work experience would be more impressive to most employers than many other graduates.

I've spent a lot of time looking at jobs based in France, and most either require extensive work experience in very specific fields, or native speaker levels of French. I would say I am 80-90% fluent, but I suspect if I was dumped straight into a high pressure, business environment with French speakers, it would take me a few months to get up to speed.

So, the way I see it, I have two options:

1) Join one of the many 3 year graduate schemes with a British company, accept that it'll mean another 3 years of living with my parents, and hope that I can move on to something abroad. In this situation though, I'd be concerned I'd start losing my French - I learned German to a decent level when I was 17, I've now forgotten all of it. I'd also be a bit gutted at spending 3 of the best years of my life doing something I don't really want to do, living somewhere I don't really want to live.

2) Move out to France with my meagre savings and just take any job I can get, working in a bar or hotel for example. Count on impressing them enough that they promote me, or search for another job as my French becomes 100% fluent. This is risky though - I'd run out of money quickly if I didn't find a job, and could see myself getting stuck in a dead end job with no prospects.

So, what would OCUK do? :p
 
Thanks for the replies, much appreciated! Interesting that you all seem to agree with me going to France: I wish I could say the same for my parents :p

Having paid out £27k to put me through uni, they would unsurprisingly be less than overjoyed if I went off to work in a bar / yacht in France, and think it would put me behind everybody else in terms of career progression / saving for a house deposit etc.

A fairly large portion of me couldn't give a **** what they think, but equally it'd be far easier moving away with their support, rather than the knowledge that every time I call them they'll just rant about how stupid and immature I am.

This is one of the reasons why it'd be far easier if I could get something vaguely professional over in France, or at least something which has a clear progression to a proper career. But if I can't find anything like that, I feel like I should still have a go and see what happens.
 
What have you got to lose? Nothing.

If you don't do option 2, I'll **** on your chest.

Just make sure you have a plan of some sort. Doesn't need to be a solid one, but an idea of what you're going to do, keep changing it if needs be, but either way, do it.

Thanks. Out of interest, how did you end up living in France? Did you find it difficult working there?

If you're worried about losing your language ability, look at doing a language meetup. There are plenty in London.

That's a great idea actually. I don't want to speak to soon, but I may have got myself an interview for a job based near Monaco. It's literally my dream job, so provided everything pans out as I hope over the next few weeks, I'll go down there in late May, bank on impressing at the interview, and if I don't get the job use the opportunity to hand my CV in to every place I can think of when I'm there!
 
Was contracting in the UK, saw a contract in Basel, thought meh, throw my CV at that, while I was on holiday about 3hrs from Basel they asked me if I would be willing to come up and interview.
Thought why not, drove up, 6hr interview later, was offered the job. Came back to UK and they informed me my contract was finishing due to budgets, which was handy as I'd accepted the Basel role.

Moved there 3 weeks later. Drove down on my own, only time I'd ever been to Basel was for the interview. Thought I'd see how the first 6 months went.

Kinda got stuck here... bored to hell of the contract now, it's crap, but it's so easy and they pay me well enough I can pursue other things.

I just windmilled in. Why not? I could have just gone back if I didn't like it. Instead I moved the whole family out. Kids go to French school, speak fluent French. My French is...OK, but I never use it. I work in an English speaking company, so you know.

Thanks, that's very interesting. Long term, if I were to stay in France, that's pretty much what I'd be aiming for. If I can get myself set up there, it'll certainly be a lot easier to go to interviews etc at a moments notice.

Do you ski/snowboard and/or mountain bike?

A good fun way is to work the winter/summer resorts in the Alps while catching up on some snow/sun if you're into those activities.

I've ski'd in the Alps before and very much enjoyed it, but I wouldn't really want to work there. As ridiculous as it sounds, part of the reason why I want to move is to live in a warmer climate, so anywhere mountainous wouldn't be ideal.
 
So, I went for option 2. Seems to be working pretty well so far, I'm getting paid to do something I'd quite happily do for free! To be driving around in these at my age is really a privilege, and something I'll never forget.

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