Working with RAW+JPEG

fartingspartan · 16 Sep 2012 at 23:18

Hello,

I have started to shoot in JPEG+RAW (Canon 7D).
Can anyone offer some advice/words of wisdom how you manage/organise your files when you get home.

Currently I load all the pics I have taken into a folder then use "Digital Photo Professional" to view them one by one and check if they are Ok.

I look at the RAW Photo and if it isn't "right" I select the RAW+JPEG version and delete.

Is there a way to automatically delete the corresponding RAW/JPEG if I delete the other? Each file name is the same eg IMG_4575.JPG + IMG_4575.CR2.

Appreciate anyone's 10p worth!

Thanks

Raymond Lin · 16 Sep 2012 at 23:45

Jpeg is a waste of space. Any photos that is worth showing to people needs processing so you need RAW. Any photos that doesn't then why bother with Jpeg?

I just shoot RAW.

pecnarf · 17 Sep 2012 at 00:11

Raymond Lin said:
Jpeg is a waste of space. Any photos that is worth showing to people needs processing so you need RAW. Any photos that doesn't then why bother with Jpeg?

I just shoot RAW.

I also only shoot in raw it the only real choice to go.

raw+jpeg uses more of memory so i do not use this option

D.P. · 17 Sep 2012 at 04:59

Raymond Lin said:
Jpeg is a waste of space. Any photos that is worth showing to people needs processing so you need RAW. Any photos that doesn't then why bother with Jpeg?

I just shoot RAW.

While I agree with the sentiments that one should always shoot raw when possible, many sports pro shoots jpeg to a) get fastest speed and biggest buffer, b) send photos off to the editing team ASAP.

I've also seen a wedding shoot raw + jpeg and would Frequently upload the jpegs to a laptop +projector.

Zero Pope · 17 Sep 2012 at 05:11

I don't see why you would shoot RAW+Jpeg, I only shoot in RAW after learning the basics of post processing. All of my photos get at least some PP, even if it is only a little white balance or contrast. Having the original in Jpeg as well seems a bit of a waste as I never use the original. I've seen some interesting videos on youtube, Jared Polins RAW vs Jpeg is a good argument about 'getting it right in the camera' not being a valid reason to only use Jpeg as any picture can be improved in PP.

julianhj · 17 Sep 2012 at 05:55

I used to shoot RAW and JPEG, before realising that I was was wasting space. RAW will not necessarily look as good as JPEG when you first view it in DPP, but that is because your camera will have already processed the JPEG image based on your in-camera settings.

If you absolutely must have instant, processed images, as in the sports and wedding examples, then fair enough. In any circumstances where you are planning on processing, don't bother with JPEGs.

Raymond Lin · 17 Sep 2012 at 06:39

D.P. said:
While I agree with the sentiments that one should always shoot raw when possible, many sports pro shoots jpeg to a) get fastest speed and biggest buffer, b) send photos off to the editing team ASAP.

I've also seen a wedding shoot raw + jpeg and would Frequently upload the jpegs to a laptop +projector.

Both of those examples are a working professional and both of those need it got a reason and an apparent one.

OP is neither and if he did he wouldn't be asking

dannyjo22 · 17 Sep 2012 at 08:50

I shoot raw and jpeg. I always process my pictures but it gives me a quick viewing facility for my wife to look at any shots without going into a raw handling program. Once I have processed the file on export I over write the jpeg.

I understand lots of people don't ever export to jpeg unless printing but I prefer to just as a final back up in case something happened to my lightroom catalogue. I could turn off the raw and jpeg but I have masses of cards and never get near running out of space.

PistolPete · 17 Sep 2012 at 10:43

dannyjo22 said:
I prefer to just as a final back up in case something happened to my lightroom catalogue.

Isn't that the point if backing it up once a day/week/month??

Update: Actually, that wont help unless your backup is on a different disk most people use the default backup which goes to the same disk.

dbmzk1 · 17 Sep 2012 at 12:24

I use RAW + JPEG so I've got a basic reference to use while learning post processing. Plus it makes it easier to show people pictures you've taken as soon as you get in without spending hours messing about with them first.

GSXRMovistar · 17 Sep 2012 at 13:23

Shoot only RAW but if I have a need to review all photos quickly prior to bring processed I just export the lot via a template to a viewing friendly size that also has basic PP applied (sharpening etc).

Raymond Lin · 17 Sep 2012 at 13:27

dannyjo22 said:
I shoot raw and jpeg. I always process my pictures but it gives me a quick viewing facility for my wife to look at any shots without going into a raw handling program.

OSX can view RAW natively.

Thought you can do that in windows?

Phal · 17 Sep 2012 at 13:31

Need software that can view RAWs in Windows, the standard viewer doesn't know what to do with RAW files.

GSXRMovistar · 17 Sep 2012 at 14:59

Phal said:
Need software that can view RAWs in Windows, the standard viewer doesn't know what to do with RAW files.

You sure about that? I know my media centre box can view RAW files from within explorer and I don't believe I have installed anything else (although I could be wrong).

dannyjo22 · 17 Sep 2012 at 15:07

GSXRMovistar said:
Shoot only RAW but if I have a need to review all photos quickly prior to bring processed I just export the lot via a template to a viewing friendly size that also has basic PP applied (sharpening etc).

Actually thinking about it that's exactly what I should do. Scott Kelby has a section in the lightroom 3 book for a jpeg effect preset. I should just do that. I will set that up this week

Raymond Lin said:
OSX can view RAW natively.

Thought you can do that in windows?

Making the change to an imac is on my list when it's pc upgrade time. Unfortunately heading that list is a 600RT or two ST-E3-RT, 5D3 and a 24-70mk2. So viewing raw natively isn't my top priority until I find a buyer for a well looked after liver

Phal · 17 Sep 2012 at 15:40

GSXRMovistar said:
You sure about that? I know my media centre box can view RAW files from within explorer and I don't believe I have installed anything else (although I could be wrong).

Just tested again and the regular Win7 Fax & Photo viewer doesn't know what to do with RAW files. Even Irfanview needed a separate plugin before it would open my 650d RAW files.

Perhaps media centre comes with something extra compared to normal Windows? Assuming it's running a media centre version of the software.

Rojin · 17 Sep 2012 at 15:42

PistolPete said:
Isn't that the point if backing it up once a day/week/month??

Update: Actually, that wont help unless your backup is on a different disk most people use the default backup which goes to the same disk.

That only backs up the catalogue, you need to be backing up your image files (RAW and\or JPEG) separately.

Phal said:
Need software that can view RAWs in Windows, the standard viewer doesn't know what to do with RAW files.

It's just a codec pack install. I haven't ever bothered since I started using Lightroom though.

D.P. · 17 Sep 2012 at 15:43

Phal said:
Just tested again and the regular Win7 Fax & Photo viewer doesn't know what to do with RAW files. Even Irfanview needed a separate plugin before it would open my 650d RAW files.

Perhaps media centre comes with something extra compared to normal Windows? Assuming it's running a media centre version of the software.

You simply need to install the ms raw codec.

Phal · 17 Sep 2012 at 16:05

Either way, it's not standard

PistolPete · 17 Sep 2012 at 16:13

Phal said:
Either way, it's not standard

They reason why it's not in the vanilla build is that it gets updated quite frequently to add support for newer cameras.

Quite why they didn't add it and update via Windows Updates is anyone's guess.