World Cup Refereeing - time for video ref ?

LeoWyatt said:
It shouldn't slow the game down, the video ref is used in League when the ref hasn't been able to see if the player was in control of the ball when he placed it. I also think the ref was used to check a 40/20 kick.
Thats the point though. League is a much slower and more stop/start game than football.
 
Tru said:
I think it's harsh to criticise refs when 90% of the players at the world cup are cheating DOOFERS and constantly try to force the ref to make bad decisions.

Edit the sweary ;)
 
maybe introduce a video ref for balls over the line or for sendings off, things that massively change the game and to be used at the refs discression only.

so players can't keep asking for a video replay.

like mentioned above, a video ref can make a decision in the time it takes for the keeper to retrieve the ball and take a goal kick.

for me, most of the nags I have are with the players where most of them act like little spoilt brats and hoy themselves to the ground at the faintest touch, feigning injuries or holding up imaginary cards.

you're grown men and it's a physical game for god's sake. just get on with it.

(just my 2 cents)
 
there have been a few very high profile bad decisions shown so far in this world cup, ie poll, and last nights sending offs, etc. but i think the main thing that needs to be changed is the linesmans, i cant count the number of offside decisions given that werent offside, or vice versa, linesmans are just incapable of keeping up with the pace of modern strikers, and something needs to be done about this, a video replay if a goal does go in would be useful for the controversial decisions.
 
As mentioned previously the sensor in the ball that tells a ref if the ball has crossed the line is IMO the best way to approach it. However, this would need to be verified elsewhere too in case of malfunction.

The bigger problems (Poll and the ref last night) aren't things that would be affected by video refs. The match Poll reffed he did quite well in. he made 3 obvious mistakes (2 penalty decisions and the 3 yellow cards) but the yellow cards he dished out were all deserved. Last night the ref made the rod for his own back when he threw round 5 yellow cards in the opening minutes.
 
Smithy said:
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Bring him back.
Thats one solution.

We need: "The Pierluigi Colina school of refereeing"
Can't remember anybody doing the typical falling over blade of grass and rolling along for a few minutes when he was ref.


It shouldn't be called into the game too often, it should be entirely up to the ref when it gets called, ie only when he is not sure. Players who run up to the ref shouting at him to watch it should be penalised.

A sensor in the ball should be introduced
 
Can anyone more in the know tell me how common it is for players to get punished after a game (either in tournaments, or say the Premier League), say for diving? I never hear of it happening, and as such will assume that it should be the first point of call when introducing technology.

In leagues, players should get fined (or something) for diving during the game, regardless of the refs decision at the time. We see the replays, whats stopping a 5/6th (?) official watching them too and acting appropriately after the game. If this is done consistently, players will realise they cant get away with silly diving and it will soon become history. At tournaments, players could be penalised after the game in form of yellow/red cards that would carry on with them into later games.

Everyone says it would slow the game down, but how often do we spend looking at a downed player for 2mins whilst there's a bit of an argument, whilst simultaneously we see the replay of the incident and see that in fact he didnt even get touched? ..from 3 different angles. By the time the guy hops to his feet he's wasted 3mins whilst we know he wasnt touched. IMO get a 5/6th official to tell the ref through his ear-piece that he wasnt touched and to get the hell on with the game without him, lol. (Ok maybe not :))

I think being afraid of the technology is ridiculous, even for the offside trap i'm certain there would be ways to get it 100% right every time (i'm thinking Cyclops @ Wimbledon here), and a simple bleep in the refs ear would tell him to blow or not. Clearly there are some people in the game (and some fans) that prefer the controversy.. this is shown by the unwillingness to even put cameras in the posts*. With the amount of money in football nowadays, its absolutely stupid.

EDIT: Shouting at the ref also needs to be stamped out, either by the refs themselves or by penalising them from replays. You watch rugby with the biggest louts in the sporting arena (;)) and they never argue and even call the refs 'sir' etc.. mad! But thats how it should be.

*FIFA's unwillingness to use technology was shown with the Figo headbutt incident. Did they not pretend the ref had issued his own punishment, where its clear from every angle that he didnt see it, and punished him for something else? It's absolutely useless.
 
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There's actually been a panel put together to review such situations.

Refs were empowered last season to punish it very heavily, but have been told this WC to not book them unless they were absolutely, positively, 100% sure it was a dive.
 
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