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Worth the upgrade?

Ausy

Ausy

Ausy

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Hey guys, just wanted a bit of input from people more knowledgeable than myself.
Currently running:-
i5 2500K, 4.2
DDR3 1600
1080
Gaming at 2k Res. (144hz)

Considering upgrading to a Ryzen 1600, high DDR 4 (3000, 3200).

Whilst I might on occasion throw a video together or stream it's by far the lesser consideration and I don't feel restricted from them on my current rig.

My sense is that I'm being CPU bottlenecked however I'm concerned after the upgrade which would cost around £400 I'll find I wasnt as nearly bottle necked as I thought.

Thanks in advanced.
 
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I went from an i5-760 @ 3.8 running ddr3 1333 ram and kept my rx480 . I found games such as bf1 were starting to struggle playing at 1080p. I chose a 1700 based on being 8c/16t, and supporting the socket for a while and it offered better value for money for me than a 7700k.

For apps and games that take advantage of six or more cores it works well especially if you are gaming and streaming at the same time. Also I found gaming overall smoother as background process stealing a core in game has a significant effect with 4 cores but not so much with six. Where ryzen while not slow but loses out to for example a 7700k is in single core performance.

In bf1 I went from 40 to 80 fps to over 100 to 144 fps (refresh rate of monitor) @ 1080p .Same Gpu in both machines. Gpu is at around 100% , cpu averaging around 30%. Previously I was cpu limited. Best to see what other 2500k owners found after upgrading.
 
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While Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, and Ryzen 5/7 are reasonable upgrades from a 2500K, I'm not sure that a pure gamer would massively benefit all that much. You would certainly see some benefit, especially from going from 4 to 12 or 16 threads, in overall system performance, but in game... merrhhh not sure.

IMO Coffee lake looks more interesting than Ryzen for the hex i7's given that things are still mostly optimized for Intel and the hex i7s are more competitive in price per thread vs Ryzen than current mainstream intel offerings. JM2c.
 
wait for coffeelake in a few weeks.both ryzen and that which should be better than ryzen are decent upgrades over what you have.
 
mistersprinkles said:
While Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, and Ryzen 5/7 are reasonable upgrades from a 2500K, I'm not sure that a pure gamer would massively benefit all that much. You would certainly see some benefit, especially from going from 4 to 12 or 16 threads, in overall system performance, but in game... merrhhh not sure.

IMO Coffee lake looks more interesting than Ryzen for the hex i7's given that things are still mostly optimized for Intel and the hex i7s are more competitive in price per thread vs Ryzen than current mainstream intel offerings. JM2c.
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Sorry i can't make sense of this, Intel Hex core is £350, the Ryzen 1600 is less than £200, the performance in games at any clock rate is the same.

Also, a good B350 Board is around £100, try finding an X299 board for anything less than twice that. :)

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@ OP, you will need a new board and new RAM in the form of DDR4, you could get a Ryzen 1600 and a good board and 8GB of 3200Mhz RAM for about £30 more than the 7700K alone would cost, and as you can see the performance difference is not great ^^^^, its actually 9% to the 7700K @ 4.9Ghz
 
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yes 2500k is getting a bit long in the tooth now, im sure if you used afterburner to monitor the gpu usage it will only be 50-60% usage in recent AAA games i.e. battlefield 1 (my 2500k 4.8 actually bottlenecks my 980 in BF4 at 1080p 120hz, its worse in BF1 where I have to change to 60hz).

its a bit of a waste to have a 1080 performing like a 1060 :D

r5 1600 is the only reasonable upgrade at the same price point as any older i5s
 
All depends on you. I decided to take a leap and bought Ryzen 7. My old rig is 3570k. While I don't game as much as I used to I felt recently especially in Battlefield 1 that I get CPU bottlenecked. From reviews and benchmarks I have seen so far Ryzen 1600 and Ryzen 1700(x)/1800(x) don't bottleneck even Geforce 1080Ti. If you end up with Ryzen I would definitely get decent cooling and push it as close as possible to 4 Ghz with at least 3Ghz/3.2 Ghz RAM. Ryzen 1600 is far less risky investment if you don't do much more than gaming and occasional video rendering/streaming. Mind you are likely to see slightly lower performance than OC'ed 7700k in games which engines don't care about multiple cores much. In other games I would rather put the extra money you would spend on the Intel CPU towards a more powerful GPU, faster RAM.

Checkout Youtube for some decent reviews:


 
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If you go Ryzen I advise getting g.skill 3200mhz C14 stuff. I actually got 3000 C14 and was able to overclock to 3200 ;)
 
humbug said:
Sorry i can't make sense of this, Intel Hex core is £350, the Ryzen 1600 is less than £200, the performance in games at any clock rate is the same.

Also, a good B350 Board is around £100, try finding an X299 board for anything less than twice that. :)

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@ OP, you will need a new board and new RAM in the form of DDR4, you could get a Ryzen 1600 and a good board and 8GB of 3200Mhz RAM for about £30 more than the 7700K alone would cost, and as you can see the performance difference is not great ^^^^, its actually 9% to the 7700K @ 4.9Ghz
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LOL @ X299. Nobody's buying that. In your own graphic that you posted, you can see 7700K @4Ghz beating the AMD equivalent @ the same clock speed by about 10%. Not insignificant.
 
mistersprinkles said:
LOL @ X299. Nobody's buying that. In your own graphic that you posted, you can see 7700K @4Ghz beating the AMD equivalent @ the same clock speed by about 10%. Not insignificant.
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By 7%, for £160 more money.

The 7700K also has a base clock of 4.2Ghz and boosts to 4.5Ghz, not 4Ghz.
 
The Core i7 7700k needs to be delidded with a decent cooler to hit 5GHZ though. The Ryzen 5 1600 with its stock cooler should get around 3.7GHZ/3.8GHZ,and the cost of a Ryzen 5 1600 and a reasonable motherboard,is still less than a Core i7 7700k without even a cheapo cooler.

Also,Coffee Lake will no doubt make more sense than SKL/KL as long as they have similar pricing structures.

Having said that OP,what games are you looking for better performance in??

What is your graphics card - its also quite possible you might be still GPU limited.
 
I benefited massively by moving from my 2500k to a 7700k, mine was also at 4.2ghz. While the average FPS of the 2500k wouldn't have been bad on paper, I was just getting stutters in games, now the FPS is higher and the game play is completely stutter free.
 
It would be a fairly big upgrade especially in games like Battlefield 1 online, which really puts strain on 2nd/3rd generation i5's that we haven't seen too often until now.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
The Core i7 7700k needs to be delidded with a decent cooler to hit 5GHZ though. The Ryzen 5 1600 with its stock cooler should get around 3.7GHZ/3.8GHZ,and the cost of a Ryzen 5 1600 and a reasonable motherboard,is still less than a Core i7 7700k without even a cheapo cooler.

Also,Coffee Lake will no doubt make more sense than SKL/KL as long as they have similar pricing structures.

Having said that OP,what games are you looking for better performance in??

What is your graphics card - its also quite possible you might be still GPU limited.
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Specifically the gigabyte GTX 1080 Turbo OC edition

Overwatch (although performance is already great for this one), player unknown battlegrounds, then I've got a back catalogue of games to play thorough like Witcher, doom, GTA 5. Plus upcoming titles like destiny 2.
 
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