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Would atom system effect download/stream or just internet?

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thinking of getting a cheap atom system be it mini pc like or nettop strictly for downloading/streaming when away from home, just been awhile since I last had one and didnt download/stream on it just tried to run movies I owned on it via kodi which was rubbish.

From experience a dual core pentium 2ghz with 2gb ram and either onboard or okay dedicated laptop/system was slow for this, but I'm never sure how much effect a system spec has over strictly internet if any at all?.
 
Atoms are a no go from what I can see, none of them support hardware acceleration for H264 or newer video codecs, and I think without it they will struggle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_Atom_microprocessors

https://www.anandtech.com/show/2889/4

LOL That anandtech link was published on 21 December 2009 talked about first generation Atom Pineview CPU D510. :p

Of course Atom Bay Trail-T and Cherry Trail-T both supported hardware accelerated H264.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_HD_and_Iris_Graphics#Ivy_Bridge

I have a MeegoPad compute stick and Linx 10 inch tablet both used same Bay Trail Atom CPU Z3735F for around 3 years now. Been updated both to Fall Creators ran fine with internet at downloading and streaming. The quad core Atom CPU handled HEVC fine at 100% load without struggle. Been used compute stick to watched Netflix in living room all the time. :D

Amazing it still going strong after Fall Creators update, shame Intel decided to killed off very cheap Atom CPUs for consumers so I cant get cheap compute stick for less than £100 anymore so Intel forced everyone to buy most expensive compute sticks with Core m3 and m5 for £400-£500. Absolutely madness. :(
 
The later quad core Atoms are fairly good little chips tbh. They were heavily subsidised by Intel in an attempt to take some of the ARM action in tablets and embedded. Didn't really work for them.

I have a feeling that ARM will be giving Intel headaches again sooner rather than later.
 
Thanks for replies, think the atom I had was single core, not sure if it had HT, but was okay, I didn’t have a desktop or anything else as an alternative at the time, but with how prices are I think a dual core or the quads are a must, after something that runs windows.


Will it matter if it had whatever it’s intel graphics is or should I look for the ION nvidia type? Did miss out on a mini pc with both a dual atom and ion, didn’t think it be good for games so didn’t buy it, obviously not the need for gaming on one now... keep seeing loads of those Eee Pc nettops for cheap but they all have that 4gb ssd rubbish, the proper ones seem hard to find.
 
Thanks for replies, think the atom I had was single core, not sure if it had HT, but was okay, I didn’t have a desktop or anything else as an alternative at the time, but with how prices are I think a dual core or the quads are a must, after something that runs windows.


Will it matter if it had whatever it’s intel graphics is or should I look for the ION nvidia type? Did miss out on a mini pc with both a dual atom and ion, didn’t think it be good for games so didn’t buy it, obviously not the need for gaming on one now... keep seeing loads of those Eee Pc nettops for cheap but they all have that 4gb ssd rubbish, the proper ones seem hard to find.

Very glad you not made a stupid mistake to buy very old mini pc with dual atom CPU and Nvidia ION GPU or cheap very old Eee PC with 4GB SSD or a proper very old Eee PC with 320GB HDD, Intel GMA 3150 and Nvidia ION 2 GPUs at very silly high price. All these PCs you looked at are absolutely rubbish and useless at downloading, streaming and Kodi.

My first tablet was Samsung Q1 UMPC with 900MHz Intel Celeron M CPU, 512MB DDR2, 40GB HDD and Intel GMA 900 GPU. It was great at downloading and streaming long time ago but when Internet sites switched to hardware H264 about 5 years ago, GMA 900 cant do hardware H264 and a single core Celeron M CPU was very struggled to decoded H264 and took forever at downloading and updating Windows 7. Absolutely useless so then I saw Linx 10 launched with trade in offers for old tablet PC so I bought it and traded my old tablet PC. :D

Of course it does matter when you look at PC spec, you should stop look for very old mini pc, nettop or laptop contained old slow single band wifi, slow ethernet, old Bluetooth 2.0/3.0, very old GPUs like Intel GMA 3150, Nvidia ION and Nvidia ION 2 because they did not have hardware H264 and HEVC decoders/encoders so all these GPUs are useless at streaming and very old single or dual core Atom CPUs cant decoded H264 and HEVC at 30/60fps smoothly properly on internet or Kodi.

I had very good look around and I suggested you to look for Cherry Trail PCs that can handle hardware H264 and HEVC up to 4K UHD, I found many Z8350 mini pc and nettop cheaper than very old Eee PCs. 2 years ago my sister got very lovely second hand HP Pavilion x2 11.6 inch Convertible laptop PC which has much better spec than old Eee PC with quad core Pentium N3510 CPU that is faster than my quad core Atom Z3735F, 4GB RAM, 64GB m2 SSD, stunning 11.6 inch IPS touchscreen and dual batteries lasted up to 10 hours so you could find some very cheap HP x2 laptops with 10 inch IPS touchscreen, quad core Atom x5 CPU, 2GB RAM, 32GB eMMC, dual band wifi, Gigabit ethernet, Bluetooth 4.0 Windows 10 and 12 hours battery. Or maybe you could look at Beelink Z83II mini pc with same spec without 10 inch IPS touchscreen and batteries a lot cheaper than a proper old Eee PC. Don't worry about small 32GB space, just plug in and download to, streaming from or install and playing from microSD or SSD/HDD/SSHD in USB dock. I been played The Witness installed from 256GB microSD on compute stick, amazing very fast tiny flash memory card. :)
 
Modern Atom CPUs are (depending on how well they hold their clocks when warmed up) circa mid-range Core 2 Duo performance and have a fair bit of accelerated video capability - 1080p no problem though some might struggle a bit above that - my Z8xxx series do OK with 4K.

They can be a bit hit and miss due to implementation though - my older tablet has the Z3740 which has dual channel memory at 17.1GB/s and Toshiba put decent cooling on it - performs about as well as you could expect - some of the cheaper tablets with other Z3xxx series only have 5-10GB/s memory bandwidth and not great cooling and will struggle with anything remotely demanding.
 
Thanks for that, I’m away I guess I am glad lol, think they only dx9/10 anyways, I’m probably better off trying to find an APU again of something decent or see about the possibility of a cheap haswell on the laptop side of things...

I have found a AM1 board for £20 on gumtree which I could run off my FSP SFX 300w 80 plus bronze psu I have spare, but I would need the Athlon quad 51?? To make it worth while Which I haven’t had luck finding any cheap AM1 processors in general yet, could get a slim case and probably spend no more than £50 unless they don’t have onboard graphics? Even on line things are abl bit over priced
 
I had a Baytrail based hybrid and it 1080p h264 just fine. Only thing holding it back was the 32gb storage...

I was actually quite impressed with what a modern Atom can do.
 
Thanks for that, I’m away I guess I am glad lol, think they only dx9/10 anyways, I’m probably better off trying to find an APU again of something decent or see about the possibility of a cheap haswell on the laptop side of things...

I have found a AM1 board for £20 on gumtree which I could run off my FSP SFX 300w 80 plus bronze psu I have spare, but I would need the Athlon quad 51?? To make it worth while Which I haven’t had luck finding any cheap AM1 processors in general yet, could get a slim case and probably spend no more than £50 unless they don’t have onboard graphics? Even on line things are abl bit over priced

Your post made no sense. You have a maximum £50 budget? You found AM1 board for £20 but no mentioned of board type whether it ITX or MicroATX but however I cant find any AM1 motherboard on Gumtree, you already have a FSP 300W SFX PSU so if it is MicroATX then you would need to add £26.99 AeroCool CS101 Micro ATX Case or £59.99 Silverstone SST-ML06B Slim HTPC case for ITX board both cases accepted SFX PSU. I cant find Athlon 5150 AM1 APUs anywhere either, impossible to find it, CEX don't have any in stock unfortunately so I found Sempron 3850 APU cost around £40 which has Radeon HD 8250. Also you would need to add up overpriced DDR3 RAM, a second hand 8GB DDR3 cost £30 to £50 which is far too much now compared to years ago and also Windows 10 is not free so you would need to pay for a retail license unfortunately cost a lot at £104.99 for Windows 10 64 bit USB stick. Up to £274.98 budget plus you need HDD or SSD so I suggest 250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD for just £86.99.

So I managed to find a Bben MN1S Mini PC stick with quad core Atom x5 Z8350, 2GB RAM and 32GB eMMC, it come with Windows 10 Home for just £53 that is within your £50 budget range, what a bargain and worthwhile. :)

Edit: Ah found Athlon 5150 APU with Radeon HD 8400 for around £40 but only 1 left in stock.

Edit 2: I searched Athlon 5150 again and Athlon 5150 APU bundle with ASUS AM1M-A Micro ATX motherboard and Artic Alpine 11GT CPU cooler just popped up all for £50 with only 3 available in stock.
 
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I own an and 5350 apu & silverstone ml05 case. It's a good HD 720p streaming / video play back pc for skygo and other content.

I find the trouble with travel & hotels is Wi-Fi is crap and speed limited. So unless you have the content on the storage it's not usually a great experience.
 
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