Would like advice on a PC build & pricing info

JaffaCakeGaming

JaffaCakeGaming

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I'm new to from scratch PC building and at some point i intent to greatly upgrade my system, after using bench marking sites etc. I've got this potential build but as a novice who's not completely familiar with all the stats of PCs i would like some advice on other options and rather or not something is unnecessary.

CPU: Intel Core i5-8600K £195
GPU: EVGA Nvidia GTX 1060-6GB £230
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 2TB (2016) £49
RAM: G.SKILL Trident Z DDR4 3600 C17 2x8GB £216
MBD: Gigabyte Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 £185
Total: £875 - (Approx. Prices)

If you could recommend equally effective items or something close at different price points so that i could save a few quid it would be much appreciated.

And lastly i have a used PC that's quite a few years old and i would like to know what little money do you think i could get for it (I know it's not worth much) or if i would have better luck just selling the GPU.

CPU: Intel Core i5-3340S
GPU: PowerColor AMD R9 270
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA100 1TB
RAM: 2x4GB
MBD: Asus K5130

Thanks

Edit - would something like this also be suitable? Corsair Vengance LPX 3000MHz C15 2x8GB £160

and lastly watt wattage power supply would i need?
 
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Read up on SSDs, you "need" one these days to get the most out of a nice system, and improve boot and load times plus make your system feel far more responsive in general. Toning down the RAM and motherboard choice should squeeze a nice 250GB SSD in. Or you could forgo the 2TB mechanical drive for now, and use your existing 1TB mech drive as a secondary drive (with an SSD as primary drive). You could also consider i7-8700 + cheaper motherboard combo.

PSU: a true 550W, or 650W if you have high ambitions for GPU upgrades. Even a true 350-450W will power the CPU and a GTX 1060. Note that PSUs should not be purchased based on the highest wattage you can find for the cheapest price. Those will be decepticons.

You'll need a case? Would these (PSU + case) have to be included in the budget?

Don't forget sorting out Windows 10.

Example spec (excluding PSU and case) which assumes you do want/need a new 2TB mech drive as well:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £888.03 (includes shipping: £11.10)
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Some decent PSUs that don't cost the earth:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £391.61 (includes shipping: £11.70)
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^^^ Dan's lost is solid, would personally choose Aorus 3 ATX board £95 due to better set up and has WiFi like the Z370 Aorus 5 board but better !
Z370 Chipset is pretty much z270 of last gen that can handle 6 core CPUs . B360/H370 and Z390 and fully blown Coffeelake Chipset and support Intel's damn fast WiFi like the Aorus 3 ATX board and don't use 3rd party parts like Z370 . also that i7 8700 non K would be a beast and would choose over 8600k personally

Ryzen based which is just plug and play and let the CPU do it's own overclocked (damn good )

I've used the Gigabyte 1060 as price place holder, evga for £230 is a good price ! !!!!!
Larger 480GB SSD bit smaller 1 TB HDD and PSU added


My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £899.03 (includes shipping: £11.10)


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As always, intel CPU will have the leads in gaming .​
 
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Prioritize a better GPU instead of a high-end motherboard and set of RAM, you'll get more performance out of a much faster GPU than a slightly faster CPU:

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £849.93 (includes shipping: £0.00)


For PSU, a decent 550w unit is plenty. The units linked in above posts are all good options.​
 
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gtx 1070 is a good jump in performance over gtx 1060! i5 8400/ ryzen 1600/2600 can handle them fine as well even at 1080p/60hz without limiting it to much from having built both CPUs with gtx 1070ti's

killer for 1080p 144hz monitors or 1440p 60hz screens- if you've got a 1080p 60hz then UPSCALE in game! other wise performance is wasted and wont make much difference over 1060

just a shame gtx 1060 prices are still sitting to high
 
dont know your intentions for this build, but from a ryzen point of view with a gtx 1070 and a single 480gb ssd then something like this if you spend the little extra.

My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £974.89 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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the cube case is a really good one, but obviously person preference, quality 550w fully modular psu and a big single drive to get you going and being an ssd its nice and fast.
 
JaffaCakeGaming said:
CPU: Intel Core i5-3340S
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Don't bother with wholesale replacement, at least immediately. I only recently moved from a 3770S, and that was only because the old motherboard or CPU failed. Buy yourself an i7-3770 (plain or S), a SSD, and your new GPU and see how you get on. If it doesn't work out then you can transfer the SSD and GPU to the new system.
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,409.40 (includes shipping: £0.00)​
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If i were to raise my budget would this setup not have better value overall and last in performance much longer?
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JaffaCakeGaming said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,409.40 (includes shipping: £0.00)


If i were to raise my budget would this setup not have better value overall and last in performance much longer?
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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £1,214.50 (includes shipping: £12.60)
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The build you've linked has a better CPU and motherboard, but the cooler is inadequate for overclocking the 8700k; you'd need to spend ~£100 on a cooler to safely reach 5ghz. The motherboard is also massively overkill unless you are very heavily overclocking, and have the cooler to match.


I've made some changes that have improved overall performance, whilst reducing the budget and providing better system longevity.

  • The i7-8700 I've picked is only slightly slower than the 8700k, due to a 4.6ghz single core boost/4.3ghz all-core boost. This slight loss in CPU power in completely cancelled out by the GTX 1070ti being much faster than the GTX 1070, as it reaches GTX 1080 performance easily (when overclocked).
  • The Samsung SSD should offer greater longevity than the budget TeamGroup option, and the Seasonic PSU has a massive 10-year warranty, and internally has very good components.
  • The AsRock B360 motherboard is one of the best options in the range, and the CPU cooler is plenty for the i7-8700 (it will be quiet too).
 
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not everyone cares about overclocking and if the stock intel cooler will do, then im sure the cooler the OP chose will be plenty.
 
ExoMale said:
not everyone cares about overclocking and if the stock intel cooler will do, then im sure the cooler the OP chose will be plenty.
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But the OP has asked for 'better value overall'. Paying a large premium for top-end parts, and then not being able to use their extra performance, is not good value for money in my mind.
 
why is overclocking good value? it may make the system faster, but it also shortens its life, its no where near 2500k age, so overclocking be least to worry about, mean if OP wants to overclock then take your suggest by all means, but as long as the cooler keeps the cpu cool as it should from stock then thats all that should matter right now.
 
ExoMale said:
not everyone cares about overclocking and if the stock intel cooler will do, then im sure the cooler the OP chose will be plenty.
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But the OP listed a 8700k cpu & the highend z370 gaming 7 motherboard and 850watt PSU

Not really worth paying the higher prices for them parts if he not going to overclock
 
That's fair - better value is different to overclocking, which is different from quietness.

This does mean you can use stock coolers, and lower wattage power supplies.
 
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