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So, a tiny bit of backstory.

About 14 months ago I saved up £700 to spend on a gaming pc. I spent days reading and researching, clue-ing myself up on hardware and eventually arrived at this build. http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?p=23162328

To cut a really long story short, I didn't end up buying the computer, and here I am again with some money saved up and I've got the itch to build a rig.

My question is basically what has changed?

When I last looked gaming and graphics were taking huge leaps forward, Crysis 3 was looking to be the most demanding and graphically intense thing to build towards, it's a year later now and I don't actually see anything changing?

There is a whole floodload of new AMD cards (by the looks of things, "R7 or R9 etc looks completely alien to me) but has anything really changed that would warrant my old build being dated and not viable any more?

If games have not developed much this last year, would "dated" hardware such as 7850/7870/7950 etc fall short of anything in particular? Some of this stuff is going relatively cheap it seems.

TL;DR

What's new in hardware/graphics/games in the last year that would lead me to reconsider/re-research and re-"design" a custom PC from last year.

If anybody wants to help out even further, pointing me in the right direction/suggestions for hardware at good prices would be fantastic!

Many many thanks!
 
YOUR BASKET
1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 280X TurboDUO 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £229.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £173.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £55.99
1 x Antec GX500 Midi-Tower - Black £43.99
1 x Seagate Barracuda 7200RPM 1TB SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST1000DM003) HDD £42.98
1 x Raijintek Themis Direct Contact CPU Cooler £19.99
Total : £721.93 (includes shipping : £12.50).




The motherboard is currently a bargain as it comes with 8GB of 2133MHz RAM for free.

As for things that have changed, well...

• New Z97 chipsets that will support Haswell, Devils canyon and supposedly Broadwell in the future.
• AMD renamed a lot of cards so the 270X is a 7870, the R9 280 is a 7950 and the R9 280X is a 7970

You will notice I didn't include a newer i5 4690K, this is because they are only 100MHz faster but cost ££££ more.
 
But this is my point, what would this machine do better that the other one (which I could probably build for £400-500 ish now) couldn't? It seems a lot like hardware has taken big steps, but towards what?
 
Its faster (especially the GFX card) and the newer chipset of the board will support more CPU including one that is not even announced yet.
 
Hi,

Im going to start by picking through your original spec and appling it to the latest generations.


First off, I forgot how cheap RAM was back then. Its really lucky if you see 8GB for under £50 let alone 16Gb.

First off, GPU's. As you know the R9 series has came along and messed things up a bit (for you). As you may know a bit about older generations let me explain in those terms.

7870 = R9 270X
7950 = R9 280(non-X)
7970(ghz) = R9 280X

As you may notice the price has dropped a little too, as you're able to get a 280X (7970) for under £250.

Here is what i'd be looking at for you budget. :)

YOUR BASKET
1 x Powercolor Radeon R9 280 TurboDUO 3072MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £199.99
1 x Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - OEM £179.99
1 x Gigabyte Z97X-Gaming 7 Intel Z97 (Socket 1150) DDR3 ATX Motherboard £139.99
1 x BitFenix Ronin Tower Case - Black £69.95
1 x Seagate Barracuda 2TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache - OEM (ST2000DM001) HDD £59.99
1 x SuperFlower Golden Green HX 550W "80 Plus Gold" Power Supply - Black £55.99
1 x Alpenföhn Matterhorn Pure Edition CPU Cooler £29.99
1 x OcUK 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £10.99
Total : £761.88 (includes shipping : £12.50).



A little bit over but still good.

You may notice the MASSIVELY overspecced motherboard, no mistake, it comes with 8GB of FRee RAM (worth £60, which makes the board £80, you wont get a half-decent board cheaper than that).

If you can find a 7950/7970 cheap secondhand, you could get one of them instead. :)
 
Wow thanks incredibly much for your responses, I hadn't noticed that about the RAM pricing, what the hell happened?

Also, thanks for clarifying about the AMD name changes, that was confusing the hell out of me!

As for the MOBO's, apart from supporting what appears to be "the architecture of the future", would there really be any problem in a good old Z77 and i5 processor?

As I said previously, it seems technology is taking big leaps, but I really can't find anything that would test even "older" technology? I understand the desire for higher numbers and faster speeds, but I'm very out of touch with PC demands.

Is there really anything a "dated and secondhand" £400 build COULDN'T manage (without coming down to negligible improvements)? When I did my research, Battlefield and Crysis etc needed the most modern technology to reach max settings, but it doesn't look like anything has progressed to warrant bigger and better technology?

Sorry if this sounds confusing, in the most caveman way of asking: Do i gotta spend more $$ cuz nothing demanding seems to be about anyway (games or otherwise). Or am I really missing something? 3D/1440P/4K etc?

It's like leaving the custom car scene to come back to find technology is more expensive and very confusing, but all the cars are doing the same lap times.

Again, thank you so much for clarifying things thus far!
 
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Well apart from buying into older tech I suppose there's little a Z77+3570K and equivalent GFX card couldn't cope with either.

Z97 does bring SATA Express and m.2 slots for SSD's apart from that there issnt a huge deal between them.
 

I wouldn't buy new if going down the Z77 route. The i5 3570K is not far off the price of a new Haswell i5.

If you can get the cpu/board second hand (look in the 'B' grade section for boards) then there is no harm in going for it, especially if the new features are not required.

As you can see, only £20 at current prices separates Ivybridge from Devils Canyon.

YOUR BASKET
1 x Intel Core i5-4690K 3.50GHz (Devil's Canyon) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £189.95
1 x Intel Core i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell) Socket LGA1150 Processor - Retail £173.99
1 x Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40GHz (Ivybridge) Socket LGA1155 Processor (77W) - Retail £169.99
Total : £543.53 (includes shipping : £8.00).

 
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