Would this be a bad idea?

linktoinsanity · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:19

Hi guys,

I have not posted in this section for a while. Since I last did, I have replaced my silver Ford Focus Zetec 1.8 (2004) with a Fiesta 1.25 (2012), also silver.

Well, although it gets going quicker than the Focus did, it loses any speed increase at higher speeds and if there are more people in it than 1 or 2, it becomes rather sluggish. Despite this, I have been reasonably happy with it as it is a nice smooth car to drive with some nice features.

However, a couple of weekends ago I was parked, on a nice wide road, out of the way and someone reversed into it, causing a pretty big dent behind the passenger door.

Anyway, fast-forward to now, I have a Curtsey car, a black 1.0 Eco Fiesta (2013). It's mine, with a facelift and although power is similar, I like it more. I was thinking of replacing mine (once I get it back) with something more similar to the Curtsey car, ideally a Black 1.0 Eco 125PS, however I have owned mine for 13 months (yeah unlucky, hit's 13 months and gets dented) and although I would not replace it straight away, I might lose more value than it's worth. Mine cost me £8000 - £1000 for the Focus Part-Ex. The same models go for £5000 now.

What are your views? I'm not making any decision quite yet, I may get my car back and decide it is fine.

It's ironic really that the Curtsey car is more like the one I initially asked the garage for then my own which was as close as they had for a good deal at the time. /Sigh, funny how things turn out.

rodenal · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:27

Fiestas don't lose £3k in a year - even considering you assumedly bought it from a garage so something is amiss there already.

The smart thing to do would be sell yours privately and buy the new one privately. Though you will be outlaying a few thousand more for a 1.0tt

Edit - how did you end up paying so much for the current fiesta? It must have been massively overpriced

acemastr · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:48

I'd look into something completely different if you're not happy with the power

Armageus · 16 Oct 2015 at 15:53

linktoinsanity said:
I have not posted in this section for a while. Since I last did, I have replaced my silver Ford Focus Zetec 1.8 (2004) with a Fiesta 1.25 (2012), also silver.

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Anyway, fast-forward to now, I have a Curtsey car, a black 1.0 Eco Fiesta (2013). It's mine, with a facelift and although power is similar, I like it more. I was thinking of replacing mine (once I get it back) with something more similar to the Curtsey car, ideally a Black 1.0 Eco 125PS

A 1.0 Ecoboost (125), is no way similar power to the 1.25, as it's nearly 40 more hp. The standard 1.0 Ecoboost is still 98hp, so nearly 20hp more than the 1.25, and has more torque due to the turbo.

The Ecoboost engines are more desireable (more torque, better mpg, cheaper VED band), and so naturally will attract a premium. The 1.25 is an engine that is been in use (though tweaked over time) since 1995.

linktoinsanity · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:07

rodenal said:
Fiestas don't lose £3k in a year - even considering you assumedly bought it from a garage so something is amiss there already.

It was bought from a Ford garage.

how did you end up paying so much for the current fiesta? It must have been massively overpriced

I looked around at the time on-line and elsewhere and others were priced similarly so I guess that's how. I can't argue other than that.

acemastr said:
I'd look into something completely different if you're not happy with the power

The 125 Eco will have the same power as the Yamaha in your sig, but what would you suggest?

Armageus said:
A 1.0 Ecoboost (125), is no way similar power to the 1.25, as it's nearly 40 more hp. The standard 1.0 Ecoboost is still 98hp, so nearly 20hp more than the 1.25, and has more torque due to the turbo.

The Ecoboost engines are more desireable (more torque, better mpg, cheaper VED band), and so naturally will attract a premium. The 1.25 is an engine that is been in use (though tweaked over time) since 1995.

I did some reading and found that the basic (or maybe under-clocked?) Eco has 79hp, there are also both 100hp and 125hp variants as well. I'd want at least an 100hp one, preferably a 125. I am guessing my Curtsey car is either a 79 or 100...

I'm no car expert and do not pretend to be, so any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

RyanF · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:13

linktoinsanity said:
The 125 Eco will have the same power as the Yamaha in your sig, but what would you suggest?

Worth noting that is a sports bike, mind. Weighs a significant amount less than a car so comparing the horse power makes little to no sense.

Armageus · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:14

linktoinsanity said:
I did some reading and found that the basic (or maybe under-clocked?) Eco has 79hp, there are also both 100hp and 125hp variants as well. I'd want at least an 100hp one, preferably a 125. I am guessing my Curtsey car is either a 79 or 100...

I'm no car expert and do not pretend to be, so any advice is appreciated. Thanks.

The 1.0 79hp has no Turbo, so is not branded as an ecoboost (although it is the same basic engine) - it has less torque and will be slower than your 1.25 (although it is more economical / cheaper VED band).

linktoinsanity · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:19

RyanF said:
Worth noting that is a sports bike, mind. Weighs a significant amount less than a car so comparing the horse power makes little to no sense.

Ha, fine. As said, a novice.

Armageus said:
The 1.0 79hp has no Turbo, so is not branded as an ecoboost (although it is the same basic engine) - it has less torque and will be slower than your 1.25 (although it is more economical / cheaper VED band).

That explains a lot, thanks. courtesy car must be the 100PS variant then.

Burnsy2023 · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:26

linktoinsanity said:
Curtsey car

It's cute, but I think you mean "courtesy car".

linktoinsanity · 16 Oct 2015 at 16:48

Burnsy2023 said:
It's cute, but I think you mean "courtesy car".

Lol. Yep.

Fixed in the latest post. I'll leave it in the rest.

Darryl_1983 · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:14

I think it's easier to take the financial hit, if you're planning on keeping the car for a while. Say you keep it for 5 years, the extra pleasure of driving the 125bhp ecoboost over the 85bhp 1.25 would be well worth.

Plus as others have pointed out it'll return better mpg and has cheaper VED. It'll also be worth more in the future being a more desirable model, so the differance in cost now, may well be offset somewhat over the period of time you own the car and when you come to sell it on.

rodenal · 16 Oct 2015 at 17:41

Doubt it, it's just a fiesta

The only reason I focused on price was that we bought a 2012 1.4 titanium at the start of the year for under £7k - another £1k for a lower trim and engine level that will be all of a couple of months newer seems , even if it's from ford

Anyway, there's no reason you can't change but try to maximise value for yourself at both sides

linktoinsanity · 16 Oct 2015 at 23:38

rodenal said:
Doubt it, it's just a fiesta

The only reason I focused on price was that we bought a 2012 1.4 titanium at the start of the year for under £7k - another £1k for a lower trim and engine level that will be all of a couple of months newer seems , even if it's from ford

Anyway, there's no reason you can't change but try to maximise value for yourself at both sides

Only thing I can think of is miles done?

It was 8k, now it's 21k (previous job involved a lot of driving).

Dogbreath · 17 Oct 2015 at 08:45

linktoinsanity said:
Curtsey car

A curtsey is something a girl does when meeting the queen. The car you have been loaned is a courtesy.

dacads · 17 Oct 2015 at 10:09

Dogbreath said:
A curtsey is something a girl does when meeting the queen. The car you have been loaned is a courtesy.

No need to point it out again.

P.s courtesy is also an alternate spelling of curtsey.

linktoinsanity · 17 Oct 2015 at 15:09

Dogbreath said:
A curtsey is something a girl does when meeting the queen. The car you have been loaned is a courtesy.

Read a few posts up.

linktoinsanity · 23 Oct 2015 at 14:28

Update: Got my car back, so will probably end up driving it around for another year or two, then get an updated model, or something else. Will see how it goes. Thanks for the useful advice, including how to spell "Courtesy."