Would this work for data?

Martini1991 · 14 Jun 2021 at 17:14

I should probably know the answer to this already, but my head's fried.

So I'm in the middle of buying a new build house, and was wanting to get the house networked.
Through much back and forth (And even a quote for price per port) I've been told that they won't do the work as "They don't offer it" (Even though the house has 1 as standard from the cupboard to the living room)

They do offer quite happily "BT ports", I've no idea what this actually means, and so far I've gotten down to it's a telephone with standard phone cable.

Which doesn't really mean anything.

If they ran this phone cable ;

CW1308 4 Pair Telephone Cable White (100m Drum) ( TC4PW100 ) | CEF

To me it looks like solid 4 pairs in twisted pair. I'd probably say it's CAT5/CAT5E if someone showed me that cable in person.

What would stop me taking off the phone ports and terminating to RJ45 ports? (Although, it'd be a bit pointless if it's CAT 5 since it's got a 1Gb connection)

Cheers

Caged · 14 Jun 2021 at 17:30

If they are wiring phone extensions then each outlet will be daisy-chained to the next socket, rather than star wired.

Not really sure why house builders still haven't learnt that people don't want telephone sockets and do want data, but there we go.

the-evaluator · 14 Jun 2021 at 17:30

If it were cat 5e or similar then it would specifically say. This doesn't, so it isn't and as such it isn't suitable for running data.

It looks like 4 pair cat 3 to me.

Martini1991 · 14 Jun 2021 at 17:37

Caged said:
If they are wiring phone extensions then each outlet will be daisy-chained to the next socket, rather than star wired.

Not really sure why house builders still haven't learnt that people don't want telephone sockets and do want data, but there we go.

That makes more sense.

Terminated in one area but 4 ports.

I won't have a landline.
I just want data

Martini1991 · 14 Jun 2021 at 17:38

the-evaluator said:
If it were cat 5e or similar then it would specifically say. This doesn't, so it isn't and as such it isn't suitable for running data.

It looks like 4 pair cat 3 to me.

May's well stick to Wifi than CAT 3 lol.

WJA96 · 14 Jun 2021 at 18:17

I had a customer who had this problem and he spent £500 in 'beer money' for the site foreman and the electrician, plus a 305m reel of CAT6 on the job and the unterminated cables appeared in the walls with backboxes all back to a big knot in the landing cupboard as if by magic.... Of course, I still had to terminate them but the new-build plaster never got scratched.

Martini1991 · 14 Jun 2021 at 18:30

WJA96 said:
I had a customer who had this problem and he spent £500 in 'beer money' for the site foreman and the electrician, plus a 305m reel of CAT6 on the job and the unterminated cables appeared in the walls with backboxes all back to a big knot in the landing cupboard as if by magic.... Of course, I still had to terminate them but the new-build plaster never got scratched.

I'd be happy with this as I could terminate it all.
But they won't do it.

I don't really understand why not