WOW - KDE4!

Rich43

Rich43

Rich43

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You guys gotta see this, its the new KDE and its amazing!

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Download a kde4 version of hardy kubuntu and try it out.. gutsy might do it fine but i would use hardy for new software like this.

I wouldnt recommend installing it alongside gnome as you will see kde apps in your gnome setup.
 
From what Ive seen its good, but I wont be using it until you can resize the taskbar! and until it hits 4.1 :p Also because I use Arch, and they haven't made official kde 4 packages yet.

But defiantly a lot of potential for the future, but right now i think its more targeted at developers.
 
-Tauren- said:
looks nice, but ive not been a fan of the icons either, although im assuming you can change the size.
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Not yet. The fix (new feature?) is coming later. It's a bit irritating, but nobody expects KDE x.0 to be perfect. They like to get the x.0 revision out so that apps can be written for new frameworks and features, rather than waiting for feature-completeness.
 
Hmm, still don't like the look of it. Prefer a nice clean minimalistic interface, KDE has too much going on.
 
It has a LOT of features and potential, but i've not enjoyed using it for the short periods i have done... And if i don't enjoy using it all the features in the world won't persuade me (well maybe *all* :p).
 
bleh. When is it due out? Being reading about kde4 for years now. I've tried out dolphin and loads of things over the months. There's nothing exciting for the users yet. That screen above looks like a themed KDE3.5+

As far as I am aware all the cool stuff is for the developers but have sorted out sound properly yet?

The most interesting thing is the cross platform aspect of the libs, as I understand it, making it relatively trivial to develop and app for mac / linux / windows. This is really quite something interesting. Imagine running the same software on linux and windows.
 
Looks good - but as said above, looks like a skinned KDE 3.5.x

The K menu looks a lot like the openSuSE default K menu (from what I remember - not seen it in years...)
 
i can't see the attraction personally, big unsizeable icons meh :)

but i'll probably run another VB client and see for myself lol
 
whitecrook said:
bleh. When is it due out? Being reading about kde4 for years now. I've tried out dolphin and loads of things over the months. There's nothing exciting for the users yet. That screen above looks like a themed KDE3.5+
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True, I think there has been much more hype about Compiz than there has been for KDE4.

Myself, I've moved away from KDE having always preferred it over Gnome. I think it just got too bloaty and too much like using Windows for my liking. That's not necessarily a bad thing, and especially when I was still getting to grips with Linux, it was useful to have a certain familiarity when using KDE, but as I've got more adventurous, I've moved away frmo it and now I prefer XFCE due to the speed and minimalism.
 
BillytheImpaler said:
It's a desktop environment, not a distro. It's a competitor to GNOME and KDE.
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I don't they are 'competitors' in the normal sense of the world. Alternatives, may be a better word.

XFCE, takes it's cue from the old CDE environment, as as it's based of GTK, all most if not all gnome stuff works really nicely on it, without all the gnome bloat.

KDE4 is supposed to have built in compositing negating the need for compiz et al.

Personally I have used gnome and KDE alternately since the beginning, and I kinda went gnome 1-> Kde2 -> back to gnome after 2 . all the time running a main station of win2k until about 8 months ago when i moved to winxp.


KDE really does have some fantastic integration between it's components, kioslaves, and all the rest are really sweet. Konqueror is too bloated for me, but it is a great web browser. and fast.

Gnome even though it looks great and is really easy to use, nice default etc, still has some majorly RETARDED functionality. Take for instance the recycle bin (trash whatever) How do you restore a file from the bin? Oh that's right you can't.

Create 2 new folders on the desktop, open them up where do the windows appear? That's right slap bang on top of each other. Spatial mode would be awesome if they obeyed the simples laws thry should follow but they don't, it's half baked.

Nautilus is slow, clunky, and restricting.

There's so many of these things that probably 95% of people don't notice, but they really annoy me. So that's why I stay on XP just now. Last time I used ubuntu I couldn't use a gui to burn an Audio cd without using k3b (which is awesome)
perhaps it's better now.
 
I think I'm still burned from the days when KDE was REALLY bloaty and slow, coined the nickname GayDE and it just stuck.. I can't stand the way everything begins with a K and, as mentioned, the icons are just too big. Irrational, childish and not realistic reasons to dislike a WM from a 35yr old bloke I know but that's how it has stuck in my mind:rolleyes: Give me Gnome any day ;)
 
I use KDE mostly, as I just like it better than gnome. I prefer flux and e, then xfce - but none of these have smb/cifs integration with the file managers (could probably add them myself.... but I'm damn lazy...)
 
whitecrook said:
Gnome even though it looks great and is really easy to use, nice default etc, still has some majorly RETARDED functionality. Take for instance the recycle bin (trash whatever) How do you restore a file from the bin? Oh that's right you can't.
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that's a hard one, take a look in .Trash ...ok so there's no 1 click restore button like windows but this is linux :) and you're stuff is still recoverable to copy/move wherever you want.

whitecrook said:
Create 2 new folders on the desktop, open them up where do the windows appear? That's right slap bang on top of each other. Spatial mode would be awesome if they obeyed the simples laws thry should follow but they don't, it's half baked.
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that's why you take advantage of the functionality of compiz and use smart windows placement :)

ppl are always talking about bloat on linux, personally i find stuff like compiz not only pretty to look at and a nice tech demo to your clueless friends but extremely functional and useful day to day, there's just so many little tweaks to enhance the desktop.
 
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