WOW - Macros advice

[theukmoog]

Macros are awesome, I've a handy one for my hunter that makes my pet run about and munch on Shammies Totems.

Blizzard have been talking about fixing that one for a long time and still haven't got round to it. That's as much automation as Decursive used to be. Huntard spams a button, pet finds the nearest totem and attacks it. Lot of skill required there!

 

[bloodline76]

I can not believe that it is not possible to successfully do a raid without addons and macros. Surely that is wrong. Makes these `TOP` raiding groups sound more like cheats with every word i read lol

Not that I would ever suggest that

Macros in a degree you CAN get away with (although not in my raid comms, you were made to prove you have them). There is certain fights you needed them, not because the particular person was a bad player, but because 24 other people may not have been as awake or quick.
Addons there is no way you can get away without it, well in TBC raiding it was so, not sure about Lich King. Kinda hard to prove that you actually DO have Omen without appearing on the list.

So basically because some people arent alert or concentrating you have to use cheats? Thats what it sounds like.

Macros are awesome, I've a handy one for my hunter that makes my pet run about and munch on Shammies Totems.

Now that is cheating! lol

 

[theukmoog]

I can not believe that it is not possible to successfully do a raid without addons and macros. Surely that is wrong. Makes these `TOP` raiding groups sound more like cheats with every word i read lol

All WoW addons and WoW macros are 100% 'legal' to use. If Blizzard don't like something 'creative' that an Addon does (eg. original decursive) then they change their language/interface to stop it but no one ever got banned for using addons.

What isn't 'legal' are 3rd party, external programs or macros.

Any program which hooks into WoW and manipulates the game is going to get you banned... google for 'wow glider' for the biggest example and the mass bannings which accompanied it.

External macros are putting you on shakey ground as Blizzard can't control what they can do. For example, the G16 keyboard can perform loops and have delays written into its macros. Blizzard have said the G16 is fine but you must not use the looping/delay features... those will get you banned.

The only party who decides what is 'legal' for WoW and what is a 'cheat' is Blizzard. All addons and macros are 100% legit.

Personally, I couldn't go back to vanilla WoW, it's just such an inflexible, simplistic interface.

 

[bloodline76]

All WoW addons and WoW macros are 100% 'legal' to use. If Blizzard don't like something 'creative' that an Addon does (eg. original decursive) then they change their language/interface to stop it but no one ever got banned for using addons.

What isn't 'legal' are 3rd party, external programs or macros.

Any program which hooks into WoW and manipulates the game is going to get you banned... google for 'wow glider' for the biggest example and the mass bannings which accompanied it.

External macros are putting you on shakey ground as Blizzard can't control what they can do. For example, the G16 keyboard can perform loops and have delays written into its macros. Blizzard have said the G16 is fine but you must not use the looping/delay features... those will get you banned.

The only party who decides what is 'legal' for WoW and what is a 'cheat' is Blizzard. All addons and macros are 100% legit.

Personally, I couldn't go back to vanilla WoW, it's just such an inflexible, simplistic interface.

What do you recommend that is ok then and what does it do?

 

[theukmoog]

For Addons, check out the various addon sites, I use...

http://www.curse.com/
http://www.wowinterface.com/


for Macros, start here...

http://www.wowwiki.com/UI_Beginners_Guide#Macros


and the official Blizzard forum for discussion about addons and macros is here...

http://forums.wow-europe.com/board.html?forumId=11098&sid=1


If you're asking for specific examples of addons I use, here are some examples...

Armory - caches char details so I can view char A from char B on the same account
Atlas - has detailed dungeon and BG maps with boss locations and loot tables
Auctioneer - helps long term monitoring of auction prices
BankItems - another char cache addon which also caches guild banks
BGDefender - makes it easier to announce how many enemy at your current location
BuffWatch - monitors buffs in your party/raid and shows when they've expired
Carbonite - a superb quest tracker and so much more. Best. Addon. Ever.
DeadlyBossMods - monitors boss fights and announces events you need to be aware of
Decursive - frame based party/raid decurse addon
Elephant - logs all chat channels you use for future reference
FuBar - very nice panel interface which supports plugins
GemHelper - helps determine if there is a gem of colour X that does Y
HealBot - complete UnitFrame replacement for dedicated healing
Macaroon - macro-based action bar addon
Omen - threat management
Outfitter - easy management of equipped items
Pitbull - UnitFrame replacement
PowerAuras - monitor you and party/raid for buffs/debuffs
Recount - hugely detailed combat monitor, collecting damage data etc
ScrollingCombatText - does what it says on the packet but much better than Blizzards ripoff
StatusBars - puts my life/mana/rage bars and target life bars near my char
WIM - Instant Messenger style whisper addon
YATA - Shaman Totem management addon

 

[spirity]

bloodline, I would seriously advise you not to use carbonite, questhelper or any addon that speeds up the leveling process if this is your first play through of WoW. They will take all of the fun out of exploration and discovery.

The only time I'd use them is if I had a high lvl character already and wanted to race an alt to max level. Otherwise, I wouldn't touch them.

Also, stay away from the official blizzard forums. It's filled with the worst retards you could ever hope to find on the internet. Stick to curse, wowinterface and wowui if you have UI questions.

 

[bloodline76]

bloodline, I would seriously advise you not to use carbonite, questhelper or any addon that speeds up the leveling process if this is your first play through of WoW. They will take all of the fun out of exploration and discovery.

The only time I'd use them is if I had a high lvl character already and wanted to race to max level. Otherwise, I wouldn't touch them.

Also, stay away from the official blizzard forums. It's filled with the worst retards you could ever hope to find on the internet. Stick to curse, wowinterface and wowui.

I dont think I will bother with any of the addons or macros tbh. I am enjoying leveling my characters with friends and taking my time.

 

[fendi]

I dont think I will bother with any of the addons or macros tbh. I am enjoying leveling my characters with friends and taking my time.

I'd use some addons like gatherer if you have chosen to collect herbs for a living . It remembers where abouts you have picked them from.

Auctioneer is handy too so you know what to sell/buy items for.

 

[Sasso]

What isn't 'legal' are 3rd party, external programs or macros.

Any program which hooks into WoW and manipulates the game is going to get you banned... google for 'wow glider' for the biggest example and the mass bannings which accompanied it.

lol yea about 5/6 of my mates used to play wow when it first came out and all but 1 got banned because of 3rd party programs. ones that would make your player do things not normally possible, such as running up steep hills you're not supposed to go up and teleport your character to any location.

my mate could harvest loads one click of a button and he's somewhere completely new getting spawns then zips back out again lol. filthy cheat!

heheh

 

[bloodline76]

I'd use some addons like gatherer if you have chosen to collect herbs for a living . It remembers where abouts you have picked them from.

Auctioneer is handy too so you know what to sell/buy items for.

And this comes from the same person that said

why not pay someone to play for you whilst you're at it.

Erm what is the word I am looking for...

 

[fendi]

And this comes from the same person that said



Erm what is the word I am looking for...

My other post referred to combat. Macro's to fight someone takes away from having any skill.

Gatherer/Auctioneer just remind you of where you found something, or sold/bought for previously.

When I first started WoW when lvl 60 was max I used to write that info down by hand. I wouldn't call that cheating.

 

[regulus]

So basically because some people arent alert or concentrating you have to use cheats? Thats what it sounds like.

Have you ever been in a top level raid? Can't deduct from your posts I've skimmed. It goes beyond concentration at times. There is so much happening so fast that you need a little assistance from time to time.

 

[Cuchulain]

Steady shot macro's for Hunters are still very popular, nearly every raid/pug I've done they're used, I don't care how unskillful the person is at clicking every icon or pressing the right number keys in order, if they get better DPS on a boss using a macro then I'm all for it.

 

[bloodline76]

My other post referred to combat. Macro's to fight someone takes away from having any skill.

Gatherer/Auctioneer just remind you of where you found something, or sold/bought for previously.

When I first started WoW when lvl 60 was max I used to write that info down by hand. I wouldn't call that cheating.

Your comment was about getting someone else to play the game for me.

I can say exactly the same for you farming like that, you might as well use a bot for it. Except I dont actually use macros and you obviously do. So there!!!

Have you ever been in a top level raid? Can't deduct from your posts I've skimmed. It goes beyond concentration at times. There is so much happening so fast that you need a little assistance from time to time.

No I havent to be honest and when I do I will let you know

Edit: Actually it depends on what top level is? As I played when the top was 60 before. With no macros or addons but not played since it went up to 70 and 80. Im a noob again as I only have L4 to L24 characters.

 

[GothicGhost]

I have been looking at some of the macros for WOW and thought they could be handy.

Could someone tell me if this is correct:

Basically I would like to cast three dots onto an enemy, change target, do the same to them, then revert back to the first.

/cast spell1
/cast spell2
/cast spell3
/targetenemy
/cast spell1
/cast spell2
/cast spell3
/target enemy1

Would that work?

Thanks

Sorry to jump in but my question sort of the same.

This macro is sort what i am looking for.

what i am trying to do is have a character follow me and auto attack what ever i attack and use spells if possable.

Thanks

 

[theukmoog]

what i am trying to do is have a character follow me and auto attack what ever i attack and use spells if possable

You cannot automate anything in WoW without risking (and probably receiving) a ban!

If you mean you have 2 accounts (your own accounts, not yours + a mates account) then what you can do is MultiBox the 2 accounts and have char B on /follow and respond to key presses to perform actions against the same targets that char A picks. There is no automation but there is great synchronicity as you have 2, 3, 4, 5 chars all casting against the same target.

Your first stop for multiboxing is http://www.dual-boxing.com/forums/

Read the FAQs and the Wiki before asking any questions as all of the basics are covered.

I multibox 5 accounts, both single class teams (Shamans/Warlocks) for PVP/PVE and mixed teams for PVE. MultiBoxing is a challenge to get working properly but very rewarding when it does.

 

[GothicGhost]

Thanks

 

[drunkenmaster]

Sorry to jump in but my question sort of the same.

This macro is sort what i am looking for.

what i am trying to do is have a character follow me and auto attack what ever i attack and use spells if possable.

Thanks

generally speaking you can't add any specific enemy targets from what I recall. What you do on your second character is have all his macros have an /assist to start with + the main character name you're playing as so he starts to assist you, he will then target your target(or you can use /target=bob's target or something along those lines if bob is your main character.

then you follow that up with /cast immolate or whatever and stick that in your 1 slot. Then use keycasting software(keyclone, hotkey net, something else) so when you press 1 on your main you cast immolate on your chosen target, on your 2nd character it will recieve the same key imput and will target your first character, assist him and use immolate on his target.

In other words you don't press one button and do 5 attacks, you press one button and do one attack.

This is why in general multiboxers stick with one class as then you can match up every power to be the same which makes it easier.

They key behind knowing if a macro is legal or not is pretty simple, every key press can essentially only do ONE action at a time. setting target isn't an "action" while casting a spell is. So you can set a target via whatever method and cast a spell, but thats all for one key press.

Don't get that confused with what you can do with a single key pressed MULTIPLE times. you can set say 1 to cast a sequence, the first press would assist and use immolate, the second time you press the same key then uses life drain, 3rd press something different.

if you really want you can set one key to do pretty much everything in one long list so you basically only ever press one key. Though the more things you stick in the list the less flexible you become. So again in general a Warlock might add all the quick instant fire dot's in one cast sequence on one key as you can have them all fired off in seconds, which you could do without macro's aswell but it free's up a lot of slots in your bar.

THe thing you can't do is have one key press do more than one action, you can't have it heal your main and then cast immolate, you can have a macro do that with two presses of the same key, but NOT one, its really that simple. Every stage has to have imput, you can basically just change what the key does with every press for efficiency.

 

[Le_Petit_Lapin]

Now that is cheating! lol

Nah, you have to click it once for each totem!

 

[theukmoog]

Nah, you have to click it once for each totem!

Yes, you do have to click it for each totem, but you don't have to target the totem or even physically have seen it, it could be stashed behind a tree out of your LOS, your pet will still go and attack it if it's within range.

Hunters/Warlocks think that's great.
Non Hunters/Warlocks think it's pretty lame

I thought Blizzard were going to make a change so instead of all totems being the same name, eg: "Searing Totem", they were going to be prefaced with the character name, eg: "MrBlobby's Searing Totem", making them less easily targettable by macro.