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Quick one for the MC/AQ/NAxx raiders in here

Does your guild adopt a MT priority on all tanking gear or do you just bid on all items as per the DKP's?

Our guild does this and after raiding MC numerous times I'm getting a little frustrated with not having much of a say as to where I can spend my DKP's

Just want to check thats it's not me just being selfish, but I don't think this is the case.

thx
 
We bid on items, it doesn't automatically go to the MT or anybody else. We tend to stay away from having an 'MT' person, we have a handful of tanks who can equally MT for us. If we set up a person to be the main MT, the others would end up getting annoyed and it sort of defeats the purpose of the dkp system imo. And we'd be stuck if that one person ever left the guild :)
 
think u'll find almost every guild has a Main Tank, the person that will always tank every boss.

however not all guilds will adopt the stategy of equipping there MT fully first, quite a few do though as it makes sense to make your MT as best as possible so u have a better survivabilty and lower wipe chance if he can survive longer during the fight, cause once the MT has died its very hard to get another in place and build his aggro up and then have all healers switch to them.

i can understand your frustration at not being allowed to bid on tanking stuff till he is equipped. Even more so if your just new to raiding as a guild as it will take along time to get him up to scratch.
 
Not particaularly new to raiding, we've been raiding as a guild since August MC/ZG/AQ and cleared MC for the 1st time on Monday night. As I say it's just getting frustrated at automatically having to pass on the Mgiht armour as MT 1,2 & 3 are given it straight away if they don't have it.

Just wondered if there are guilds that do it purely on DKP's as a pro MT priority guy (hunter) argued that all raiding guilds do it this way
 
wordy said:
Just wondered if there are guilds that do it purely on DKP's as a pro MT priority guy (hunter) argued that all raiding guilds do it this way
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He's talking crap - I really hate it when people start deciding who can bid for what etc. The whole point of DKP is that people get the loot they deserve based on their raid attendance, its so simple then people come along and decide person A is more worthy of person B blah blah.

MT's are usually up their own backside anyway. If they're any good at MT'ing then they'll have more DKP and get the loot anyway. If you give them priority what happens if your MT quits or leaves your guild?
 
I think it's probably quite common for a new guild to do, but not, for example, a guild clearing MC. It makes sense though when you're starting out, as it's a lot harder for everyone else if the MTs aren't as well equipped as they could be. To be honest though, there's not much difference between doing that and not letting priests bid on +dmg gear or weapons.
 
Well we play if you win the DKP bid you get it, you only bid if you need it, but if you do, then it's up for grabs.

However our main 2 tanks have a few hundred DKP... and i have about 30 :(


I need more DKP.

I did get Jeklik's Hammer for 10 the other day though :)
 
Its a point system.
For every epic drop that is bought, points are taken from the buyer, and distributed amongst all present. Example: a 40 point item is bought, one person loses 40 points, all 40 raiders get one point. The sum of the system is always zero (there are other ways, but this zero-point base seems quite common).

Our guild had 3 MTs with equal prefs on defensive plate gear, trinkets and shields.

Other tanks would get second pick.

Tanks leave guild - guild was screwed.

The tanks who were constantly shafted stuck with the guild. So no, MT prio doesnt always work to award the most loyal.
 
theDave said:
im a bit of a wow noob onl lvl 25 so i aint been on any raids
can i ask what DKP is?
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It stands for Dragon Kill Points, you get DKP for raid attendance, new kills, epic drops etc etc. You can spend your DKP on the epic drops.

As for the MT priority, it can work. I was in a guild last year where the guildmaster was the MT, most people didn't have a problem with passing the loot onto him as the guild was quite old and there was no chance he was leaving. Obviously its different for other guilds, and i've heard of a few "priority MT's" leaving with their ill gotten epic gear for bigger guilds therefore leaving a lot of annoyed warriors in the previous guild and slowing down their overall progression.
 
Some guilds don't run DKP however, as it is an addon. A very widely used one, but an add on none the less.

I always find it a feminine dog trying to work out how much DKP i have mid raid and having to minimise and find it online though :(
 
FrK` said:
Simple if u want to progress further quicker u give MT(s) priority
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That's fine if you're in a good guild with like me with tanks that have been loyal for over a year. But not for the situations described somewhere (above perhaps?) where the supposed MTs are stil fairly new to the guild, they get priority, get a load of good loot for a month or so then quit the guild. That just pushes the guild backwards because the usual MT is gone, and any to replace him/them/her are undergeared cos the guild gave it to their old MT.
 
badgermonkey said:
Some guilds don't run DKP however, as it is an addon. A very widely used one, but an add on none the less.

I always find it a feminine dog trying to work out how much DKP i have mid raid and having to minimise and find it online though :(
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Dual screen :P
 
badgermonkey said:
That's fine if you're in a good guild with like me with tanks that have been loyal for over a year. But not for the situations described somewhere (above perhaps?) where the supposed MTs are stil fairly new to the guild, they get priority, get a load of good loot for a month or so then quit the guild. That just pushes the guild backwards because the usual MT is gone, and any to replace him/them/her are undergeared cos the guild gave it to their old MT.
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yeah thats true, only works if u can trust/count on your mt staying with you
 
For BWL and MC we did use MT prio - Tanks only had Wrath or Might - Extra items were offered to anyone.

When AQ came in, cross class items were then bought in, so it was then open to everyone and anyone who could take class pieces. I.E Rogues shared their items with Tanks for say shoulders (but we all know an MT warrior wouldnt take shoulders anyway - but you get my drift).

Also for tanks, as only a few items (non class specific) from AQ40 were actually any good, they did not get prio, it was open to all classes/warriors.

In Naxx it was tank then OT prio. Bear in mind the MT did have 100% raid attedence, TF and the full goings over - He got anything and everything he wanted that could makehim tank better.
 
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It's a really really bad idea to do this IMO.

Our guild did this, then the tank deletes his character for no reason. Full Dark Iron set, plus most of the Might set, gone.

Then the backup MT says "I don't want to be a tank anymore" and stops coming to raids.

It's such a risky strategy. I personally wouldn't join a guild that gives tank gear to one or two tanks only.
 
MT should get slight prio imo but I wouldnt go too far, for example him getting a better shield over the other warriors/pala's etc first.
 
We use full dkp for almost all items, the only prioritised item that I can remember was Onyxia's head, as the tanking item off that was very good for us at the time. Otherwise I think our warriors might have some kind of informal loot order among themselves, but there was nothing concrete.
 
No explicit understanding, but in reality, if it is a significant upgrade for the MT, then no-one else will bid DKP against him. It's ultimately in their interests that the MT is as well equipped as he can be anyway. Mind you, we're reasonably stable and haven't had any long term players leave for 6+ months, so people are reasonably happy that we won't end up with someone leaving the guild with -1000 dkp etc etc :)
 
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