Wraith Spire cooler for 2600x - is it sufficient?

x-st · 30 Nov 2018 at 13:09

Just waiting for the lat couple of bits for my first build to arrive and I've suddenly had a bit of nerves regarding the CPU cooler. I know that the Ryzen 2 chips can get quite hot and that the 2600x has a good auto overclock with it's Precision 2 boost. Looking at some reviews of the included Wraith Spire it seems like it's an ok cooler, and better than the stock intel ones, but is bettered by almost any other alternative. It's also confusing as there seem to be two versions of the Spire (Ryzen 1 vs 2's versions).

I don't plan to do any manual overclocking, but I intend to keep the system for a while so that might change. With the auto overclock on the 2600x would I be better off doing a minor cooling upgrade?

I'm at my budget's end but was considering whether I should be grabbing the Cryorig H7 or the CM Hyper 212 Evo as a sensible budget option to shave what looks to be around 10 degrees off operating temperatures with stock settings.

Grandmaster Fap! · 30 Nov 2018 at 13:17

Im sure it will do the job but having a 2700x myself i know how hot they can get and stock cooling can get overwhelmed, just for peace of mind if it were my choice id get something like a BeQuiet Pure Rock for 30 quid.

Jamin280672 · 30 Nov 2018 at 17:23

x-st said:
Just waiting for the lat couple of bits for my first build to arrive and I've suddenly had a bit of nerves regarding the CPU cooler. I know that the Ryzen 2 chips can get quite hot and that the 2600x has a good auto overclock with it's Precision 2 boost. Looking at some reviews of the included Wraith Spire it seems like it's an ok cooler, and better than the stock intel ones, but is bettered by almost any other alternative. It's also confusing as there seem to be two versions of the Spire (Ryzen 1 vs 2's versions).

I don't plan to do any manual overclocking, but I intend to keep the system for a while so that might change. With the auto overclock on the 2600x would I be better off doing a minor cooling upgrade?

I'm at my budget's end but was considering whether I should be grabbing the Cryorig H7 or the CM Hyper 212 Evo as a sensible budget option to shave what looks to be around 10 degrees off operating temperatures with stock settings.

The stock cooler will be fine if you are not going to manually overclock, PBO / XFR bases itself on things like the CPU temp, so it wont allow it to boost to the point where its going to start over heating, yes a better heatsink can maybe get you bigger and longer boosts, but give it a try and if you're happy with it then theres no need to change it.

I will add though, although it is a pretty decent cooler for the stock cooler, it can get a bit noisy when it starts to ramp up.

Unseul · 30 Nov 2018 at 18:46

2700x stock cooler was definitely OK for non-overclocked. I wouldn't bother replacing it with a £20-30 cooler, if you're replacing it, do it with something that will make an actual difference.

x-st · 30 Nov 2018 at 21:18

Grandmaster Fap! said:
just for peace of mind if it were my choice id get something like a BeQuiet Pure Rock for 30 quid.

Jamin280672 said:
yes a better heatsink can maybe get you bigger and longer boosts, but give it a try and if you're happy with it then theres no need to change it.

Unseul said:
2700x stock cooler was definitely OK for non-overclocked. I wouldn't bother replacing it with a £20-30 cooler, if you're replacing it, do it with something that will make an actual difference.

Thanks for the different views...temperature benchmarks look like there's a really achievable 10 degrees drop with even a budget cooler over the Wraith Spire, but of course if that has no impact upon my use then it's a bit pointless.

Grandmaster Fap! · 30 Nov 2018 at 21:33

If what you are doing is below 60c and the sound doesnt drive you mad then stick with that and be happy

Ross Thomson · 1 Dec 2018 at 10:54

only issue is the sound of the stock cooler. standard PBO does push a lot of volts mind you so you could set an OC with less volts that stock.

Unseul · 1 Dec 2018 at 11:39

The stock cooler can get upto a good whine. Even pushing my 2700x on the stock cooler, I don't think I broke the 75c mark, which is absolutely fine. Got offered a much better cooler, more importantly, almost silent (definitely compared to the noise everything else makes when working hard), so took it. Probably gives me more wiggle room should I ever try and OC, but perfectly happy with the wraith. Kept the wraith since it really does do a decent job, and since it has RGB when/if I build my boy a PC, he can have some pretty lights (probably an awful idea thinking about it, he gets easily distracted).

Mike_P · 1 Dec 2018 at 16:07

x-st said:
Just waiting for the lat couple of bits for my first build to arrive and I've suddenly had a bit of nerves regarding the CPU cooler. I know that the Ryzen 2 chips can get quite hot and that the 2600x has a good auto overclock with it's Precision 2 boost. Looking at some reviews of the included Wraith Spire it seems like it's an ok cooler, and better than the stock intel ones, but is bettered by almost any other alternative. It's also confusing as there seem to be two versions of the Spire (Ryzen 1 vs 2's versions).

I don't plan to do any manual overclocking, but I intend to keep the system for a while so that might change. With the auto overclock on the 2600x would I be better off doing a minor cooling upgrade?

I'm at my budget's end but was considering whether I should be grabbing the Cryorig H7 or the CM Hyper 212 Evo as a sensible budget option to shave what looks to be around 10 degrees off operating temperatures with stock settings.

Re. the CM Hyper 212 Evo, there seems to be some debate whether it comes with an AM4 bracket or not. FWIW there's currently a deal on the CM MasterAir MA410P RGB CPU Tower Cooler that is AM4 compatible, just bought one myself for my 2600 Black Friday bundle, got to wait until next weekend before I can build it though.

doyll · 1 Dec 2018 at 17:20

x-st said:
Just waiting for the lat couple of bits for my first build to arrive and I've suddenly had a bit of nerves regarding the CPU cooler. I know that the Ryzen 2 chips can get quite hot and that the 2600x has a good auto overclock with it's Precision 2 boost. Looking at some reviews of the included Wraith Spire it seems like it's an ok cooler, and better than the stock intel ones, but is bettered by almost any other alternative. It's also confusing as there seem to be two versions of the Spire (Ryzen 1 vs 2's versions).

I don't plan to do any manual overclocking, but I intend to keep the system for a while so that might change. With the auto overclock on the 2600x would I be better off doing a minor cooling upgrade?

I'm at my budget's end but was considering whether I should be grabbing the Cryorig H7 or the CM Hyper 212 Evo as a sensible budget option to shave what looks to be around 10 degrees off operating temperatures with stock settings.

The stock cooler will cool fine as long as you have your case airflow setup so cooler getscool air. Biggest problem with stock cooler is it is a downflow cooler so tends to re-use it's own heated exhaust air .. and every degree warmer the air into cooler is translates to almost exactly the same degrees hotter the CPU will be. A small tower cooler like H7, H5, Matterhorn, even Hyper 212 similar would be a better choice .. but you will still need to make sure case is flowing cool air to cooler .. and be sure cooler has AM4 mount. You might find the linked basic guide to how airflow works and how to optimize it of interest.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-i-put-my-temp-sensor.18564223/#post-26159770

WantoN · 2 Dec 2018 at 13:26

It’ll be fine. Consider a new cpu cooler a future upgrade to look forward to.

I never used to know when to say ‘enough’ with my rigs, these days I just consider them ongoing projects