Is there a difference between the latest MacBook and the one before the WWDC, in terms of keyboard?
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Yeah the 2017 rMB has the 2nd generation butterfly keyboard. The 2016 one had gen 1 keyboard.
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There are 2 generations of the butterfly keyboard: Gen 1 came out in 2015 (so with the original rMB and the MBP), Gen 2 came out in 2016, so the 2016 MBP range got them, but the 2016 rMB missed out. Now the 2017 rMB has the Gen 2 keyboard.
Hope that makes sense?
If you're saying you don't like your 2016 MBP keyboard, then you're out of luck, because that's Gen 2. If you're complaining about your 2016 rMB, then good, because it is Gen 1.
I bought my MacBook in November as a refurb, I'm not a fan of the keyboard.
I much prefer the keyboard of the MacBook Pro I just returned to get the Kaby Lake one.
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Yeah the 2017 MacBook has the better 2nd gen keyboard.
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It doesn't really feel any different to my MacBook which is Early 2016. If there's a difference, I can't tell but I've not put them next to each other to specifically compare.
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Yeah not a huge difference, but consensus is that gen 2 is definitely better.
Well we are off to a good start....looks like according to OWC the new low end 27" model does indeed support 64GB RAM despite not being able to be ordered with that configuration directly from Apple.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/06/08/27-inch-imacs-compatible-with-64gb-ram/
Soldato
Just to clarify, you returned your 2016 MBP to get the Kaby Lake upgrade? Was it a recycle deal? Mind giving me an idea of what they gave you for the return?
Yes, I was within the 30 day return period. New Kaby Lake Pro has dispatched from China.
Soldato
Yes, no problem at all.
Soldato
Interested to see if the CPU can also be upgraded. I've given up on all hope for system storage.
Yes it can. I watched this (rubbish) breakdown of the new 27". They get a bit confused when removing the mainboard but the CPU is socketed under a headsink just like in the 21".
The Hard Drive and SSD are also upgradable. Obviously it's not the simplest thing to open up, to actually do the work, but good to see there is some expandability in there with this new generation.
Will be interesting to see what the iMac Pro has in-store in December as Apple have said that even the RAM isn't user upgradable, meaning no RAM flap. Doesn't mean the RAM won't be if you take the screen off.
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Soldato
Thanks for that. Looks. Like the SSD part of the fusion drive is still very small if you choose the 1 TB version.
I'm a bit torn - starting to lean towards keeping my existing i5 5k model.
I'm a bit torn - starting to lean towards keeping my existing i5 5k model.
Is it slow? My late 2014 i7 5K iMac is still fairly rapid.
Soldato
It is fine, but I think could be snappier on editing 4K video. There is also the 'new shiny thing' factor
That is true. Not sure I'll bother upgrading mine, the new MacBook Pro should be powerful enough for my use so I may get an external 5k monitor if Apple release one.It is fine, but I think could be snappier on editing 4K video. There is also the 'new shiny thing' factor