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x2 price going down anytime soon?

Usually things don't go down in price, they just get discontinued and the next gen models come out. The previous gen components stay high so unworthwhile to purchase since the newer ones offer higher performance for similar money. Look at hard drives, the smaller ones are basically a few quid less than drives twice the size. Only those one or two biggest capacities are expensive/not good value for money. In fact things can go up (EDO prices as a example) If/when they do get discontinued old gen. I guess it depends on how much you want it to be discounted price. Intially expensive, drops considerbly after a couple of months then stays at that price.
 
AMD are actually increasing prices between 2-4% on the 10th of April, so I do not see any price reductions happening till the introduction of the new AM2 socket on the 6/6/6. You'll probably find that the reductions will be small as well due to the high demand and low supply of the processors at the moment.
 
I don't think they're going down. Even with AM2 on the horizon, I still doubt they will go down in price. If anything, they may actually go up. Take a look at AGP graphics cards. They're more expensive than PCI-E cards. You can get a much faster PCI-E card for the price of an AGP card. I suspect Socket 939s will stay at the price they are now, as a lot of people still want them. We shall have to wait for AM2 to see how 939 pricing is affected.
 
Explicit said:
I don't think they're going down. Even with AM2 on the horizon, I still doubt they will go down in price. If anything, they may actually go up. Take a look at AGP graphics cards. They're more expensive than PCI-E cards. You can get a much faster PCI-E card for the price of an AGP card. I suspect Socket 939s will stay at the price they are now, as a lot of people still want them. We shall have to wait for AM2 to see how 939 pricing is affected.

I don't think that's the case, take the 4400+ for example. Mid January it was £352.44 inc and now it's £328.94!

The X1900xt HIS Excalibur was £372.94 inc at the start of Feb and now it's £305.44 inc!

Prices do generally fall steadily over a period of time but big price drps will definitely come when AM2 is released, the same with the gfx cards. An x1800xt 512mb has dropped nearly £80 in just 2 months!
 
Monstermunch said:
I don't think that's the case, take the 4400+ for example. Mid January it was £352.44 inc and now it's £328.94!

The X1900xt HIS Excalibur was £372.94 inc at the start of Feb and now it's £305.44 inc!

Prices do generally fall steadily over a period of time but big price drps will definitely come when AM2 is released, the same with the gfx cards. An x1800xt 512mb has dropped nearly £80 in just 2 months!

That's all PCI-E, look at AGP. The AGP cards are around £20-30 more expensive than the equivalent PCI-E cards, yet PCI-E is the faster up-to-date architecture. Why? Demand.

Socket 939 are going to be legendary no matter what. 939s are in very high demand and selling extremely well. Just look at how many people have them at present. A lot of people are waiting for AM2 so they can get a cheap 939, and AMD are not blind to this.They'll want to make as much profit as they can. It wouldn't make business sense to sell 939s at a lower profit margin, given how much demand there is/will be for them. I don't see 939s dropping in price immediately with the release of AM2. As demand dies down over time, then prices will inevitably drop.
 
Explicit said:
That's all PCI-E, look at AGP. The AGP cards are around £20-30 more expensive than the equivalent PCI-E cards, yet PCI-E is the faster up-to-date architecture. Why? Demand.

Socket 939 are going to be legendary no matter what. 939s are in very high demand and selling extremely well. Just look at how many people have them at present. A lot of people are waiting for AM2 so they can get a cheap 939, and AMD are not blind to this.They'll want to make as much profit as they can. It wouldn't make business sense to sell 939s at a lower profit margin, given how much demand there is/will be for them. I don't see 939s dropping in price immediately with the release of AM2. As demand dies down over time, then prices will inevitably drop.

I don't disagree but I think the AGP prices reflect how many are being made. With fewer in production it puts the individual unit costs up. If you were to look at the figures I wouldn't be suprised if they are selling them for a loss.

With a lot of technology prices drop as demand and production increases because of costs per item dropping on a factory floor level, like TFT's and Plasma screens for example.

The x1800 prices have dropped significantly because they have stopped production and are basically clearing dead stock. AMD are due to stop manufacturing socket 939 within a month of AM2's release so hopefully the same will reflect on this.

Personally I am waiting to see what happens, cos damn if i'm gonna build a new rig now only to find out in 2 months that the prices have plumeted. I know prices are always dropping but with a possible big fall around the corner i'm gonna wait.
 
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Don't get me wrong, I want prices to drop just as much as every other person. But IMO, it just wouldn't make sense for AMD to slash prices by a large amount when they know the 939s will still sell. It would also undermine the release of AM2 as every would just buy the cheaper 939 alternative (and let's face it, DDR2 in its current state is hardly anything to get excited about).

I think the price slash will come when the competition kicks in. To put it bluntly, Intel's current offerings are rubbish when compared to AMD. But when Conroe comes, that's all going to change. AMD won't have the upperhand anymore and will become second best. AMD will have to cut prices because they won't be leading the market as they currently are.
 
Explicit said:
Don't get me wrong, I want prices to drop just as much as every other person. But IMO, it just wouldn't make sense for AMD to slash prices by a large amount when they know the 939s will still sell. It would also undermine the release of AM2 as every would just buy the cheaper 939 alternative (and let's face it, DDR2 in its current state is hardly anything to get excited about).

I think the price slash will come when the competition kicks in. To put it bluntly, Intel's current offerings are rubbish when compared to AMD. But when Conroe comes, that's all going to change. AMD won't have the upperhand anymore and will become second best. AMD will have to cut prices because they won't be leading the market as they currently are.

You're probably right to an extent, but i'm still not convinced about conroe. I just think that AMD have something up their sleeves.

As far as the prices go, don't forget that AMD have announced that skt939 will be discontinued with the production of AM2. They have said that they are going to carry on producing skt754 for budget models but 939 is going by way of the dodo.

With this in mind there is a chance they will bite the bullet and just sell stuff off cheap to clear the path for AM2, that way in 6 months when people are looking to upgrade and don't want a budget model they'll have to buy AM2.
 
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