x99 chipset DDR4 memory ?

digitaldreams · 2 Jul 2015 at 20:28

Hi Guys

After being utterly raped of my house, kids, pension and sanity in the sickeningly ignorant and biased family/divorce courts I'm thinking of upgrading to x99 from my old 3 channel x58 as a means of mental therapy before I go under/crazy.

With my old DDR3 board the memory situ became a bit vague, going for lower cl values didn't do you much good. Looking at the x99 boards they seem to say 2133 is the design speed, anything above (to 3000+) is 'overclocked' ??.

What is the score with the DDR4 x99 chipset ?, go for 2133 with the lowest CL I can find or is it better/safe safe to go higher MHz (overclock) ?, I don't like overclocking in general, prefer stability/reliability/long life without losing the advantage of the later chipset

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Sorry if confusing, brain completely shot.

Regards...

FloppyPoppy · 3 Jul 2015 at 05:37

Find the motherboard you want first and check on it's specifications for ram support you will find for example on the asus x99 delux it will read

8 x DIMM, Max. 64GB, DDR4 3200(O.C.)/3000(O.C.)/2800(O.C.)/2666(O.C.)/2400(O.C.)/2133 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory

That is telling you what the motherboard is capable of doing. i think this was also the case with other chipsets.

the OC is actually almost always ( it actually might be always ) in the form of a XMP profile that you just turn on and achieve the advertised speeds.

As always unless you are going for some form of overclocking world record ect ect it really does not matter what speed/timings you go for too much. It won't really effect real world performance at all. Get a kit you like the looks of and price tag to match.

The only thing to note is systems ( depending on the usage situation ) are starting to use quite a bit of ram now. running GTA V with a chrome browser with about 2-3 tabs open im using around 11GB of ram so i would say get 16GB minimum now.

Good luck with not going crazy... at least now you get to build beast systems without being moaned at.

digitaldreams · 3 Jul 2015 at 07:33

harry5522 said:
Find the motherboard you want first and check on it's specifications for ram support you will find for example on the asus x99 delux it will read

That is telling you what the motherboard is capable of doing. i think this was also the case with other chipsets.

the OC is actually almost always ( it actually might be always ) in the form of a XMP profile that you just turn on and achieve the advertised speeds.

As always unless you are going for some form of overclocking world record ect ect it really does not matter what speed/timings you go for too much. It won't really effect real world performance at all. Get a kit you like the looks of and price tag to match.

The only thing to note is systems ( depending on the usage situation ) are starting to use quite a bit of ram now. running GTA V with a chrome browser with about 2-3 tabs open im using around 11GB of ram so i would say get 16GB minimum now.

Good luck with not going crazy... at least now you get to build beast systems without being moaned at.

Thanks Harry....I have a new partner (hell of a lot better than the last) so are still at risk of being moaned at LOL.....

A major issue I have identified is that I currently use a Soundblaster XF-i with front panel. There are no old PCI sockets on the new motherboards !. This would be a great loss to me. The front panel has midi (for my kids keyboard) and a very handy headphone socket and volume control etc. Why don't the likes of ASUS offer a similar front panel to connect to their motherboards !?. You are left fiddling around the back of your pc and with software controls (difficult in the middle of say Crysis3)... Damn.

FloppyPoppy · 3 Jul 2015 at 08:05

PCI gen 1/2/3 if that's what you are mentioning are backwards compatible

so if the sound card is pci-2.0 it will work fine in a 3.0 port. And im pretty sure the motherboards still all have front panel audio connections on the motherboard for your case 3.5mm jacks to be plugged into.

If you want it to be really easy a external AMP/DAC would be great

digitaldreams · 3 Jul 2015 at 09:38

harry5522 said:
PCI gen 1/2/3 if that's what you are mentioning are backwards compatible so if the sound card is pci-2.0 it will work fine in a 3.0 port. And im pretty sure the motherboards still all have front panel audio connections on the motherboard for your case 3.5mm jacks to be plugged into.

If you want it to be really easy a external AMP/DAC would be great

The socket my XF-i is currently plugged into (white) looks nothing like the video card sockets that fill new motherboards....the locating bar (part way along the connector) is in a different location for a start. The XF-i sadly would be straight in the bin but it would be great to dump the sata 6gb/s, USB3 extension card though.

Regards

stooeh · 5 Jul 2015 at 22:33

Yeah it's a PCI slot (as opposed to PCIE) - They were already being phased off boards in the X58 days. I think I have an old PCI soundcard myself in the old pc bits cupboard.

A new board will have onboard sound with front panel connectors though not sure about MIDI. Not seen a midi port since the days when they doubled up as a gamepad port

digitaldreams · 20 Jul 2015 at 14:24

harry5522 said:
As always unless you are going for some form of overclocking world record ect ect it really does not matter what speed/timings you go for too much. It won't really effect real world performance at all.

Has anyone done a real world test of the difference between 2133 and 3200 with the X99 chipset ?. Even 3D mark comparisons would be interesting...I'd guess the higher speeds also bring higher temps for the chipset ?. Anyone running at or close to 3200 on an X99 board have experience to share ?

Regards

Greebo · 21 Jul 2015 at 23:02

Bugger all difference unless in benchmarks. I bought the Kingston 2667 16gb for 119. Clocks to 3000 at cl13.

There's a review if u google it showing the differences in cl and sped on x99 format. Most games are zero difference. Some practical things gain but not worth the huge amounts of extra money imo

MasterOC · 21 Jul 2015 at 23:29

Bear in mind anything above 2666 needs to be ran on. Strap 125 , so if you do fancy high clocking ram be prepared for some tinkering , which isn't always a bad thing

Greebo · 22 Jul 2015 at 07:20

stooeh said:
Yeah it's a PCI slot (as opposed to PCIE) - They were already being phased off boards in the X58 days. I think I have an old PCI soundcard myself in the old pc bits cupboard.

A new board will have onboard sound with front panel connectors though not sure about MIDI. Not seen a midi port since the days when they doubled up as a gamepad port

Proper music sound cards still have midi on them, some more than one and come in PCI-e format. Tend to cost £200 upwards though