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X99 -> X299, Am I missing something?

faxfan

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I'm currently running a 5930K on a X99 platform with a m2 boot SSD, Intel 750 PCIE SSD and two 1080's in SLI.

I currently have 44 PCIE lanes - as I understand it, where does X299 fit in - it seems like same / less PCIE lanes (although I may not be utilising them all to be fair) and some more cores.

Have I missed something important here?
 
Ryzen came out and did better than expected so Intel had to rush something out just to have a new shiny.
 
faxfan said:
I'm currently running a 5930K on a X99 platform with a m2 boot SSD, Intel 750 PCIE SSD and two 1080's in SLI.

I currently have 44 PCIE lanes - as I understand it, where does X299 fit in - it seems like same / less PCIE lanes (although I may not be utilising them all to be fair) and some more cores.

Have I missed something important here?
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Yes, you have missed your own post. More cores at the same price point. If you're happy where you are, I'd stay put.
 
New mesh design instead of Ring bus or what ever it was called- seems not great for gaming but workstation requirements its meant to be better...

also never had the ram issues of x99 and x370 launch supporting some insane speeds. Like others said , not worth the upgrade
 
X99 / 5930k has 40 PCIe lanes Gen 3.0 then 8 Gen 2.0 from the chipset.

On X299 only the 10 core CPU+ have more native PCIe Gen 3.0 lanes with 44 lanes. But do note X299 chipset is also beefed up with 24 Gen 3.0 lanes wir d to secondary slots, M.2 slots etc.

X299 is a nice choice if your into doing workstation / multithreaded workload, but at that point Ryzen comes in underneath and Threadripper above. For gaming as already mentioned Skylake-X seems to take a hit a hit to performance, possibly down to the topology change meaning it performs no better then Ryzen really and even when overclocked is still usually outdone by the 7700k.

If your gaming mostly, stick with what you have or wait for coffee lake. If it combines IPC improvements, hits high freqency and uses ringbus or avoids the issues that seems to be affecting Skylake-X for gaming, could be a upgrade.
 
faxfan said:
I'm currently running a 5930K on a X99 platform with a m2 boot SSD, Intel 750 PCIE SSD and two 1080's in SLI.

I currently have 44 PCIE lanes - as I understand it, where does X299 fit in - it seems like same / less PCIE lanes (although I may not be utilising them all to be fair) and some more cores.

Have I missed something important here?
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The problem, as some might call it, is AMD, they are about to introduce very competitive HEDT CPU's at a price point half that of what Intel would like to sell their HEDT CPU's at, as a result they can't.

Now they have a problem, now the Core-X series looks very tempting to those who would normally buy the higher priced Xeon's for work stations, so to avoid cannibalising those lucrative markets Intel cut out half the IO on all but the most expensive ones.
 
the thing is people dont realize or some dont how fast the i9 7900x is for eg or that it can be clocked very high.all the amd people for eg are singing the praise of threadripper which is going to be 3.8 ghz probably tops.when a decent 7900x will be 4.9-5.0.forget extra cores thats a big difference.so games already show a big difference over ryzens and x99 stuff. 40 fps alone on crysis 3 for eg.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
the thing is people dont realize or some dont how fast the i9 7900x is for eg or that it can be clocked very high.all the amd people for eg are singing the praise of threadripper which is going to be 3.8 ghz probably tops.when a decent 7900x will be 4.9-5.0.forget extra cores thats a big difference.so games already show a big difference over ryzens and x99 stuff. 40 fps alone on crysis 3 for eg.
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Delidding a 1k chip - no thanks.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
the thing is people dont realize or some dont how fast the i9 7900x is for eg or that it can be clocked very high.all the amd people for eg are singing the praise of threadripper which is going to be 3.8 ghz probably tops.when a decent 7900x will be 4.9-5.0.forget extra cores thats a big difference.so games already show a big difference over ryzens and x99 stuff. 40 fps alone on crysis 3 for eg.
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Do you ever proof read your posts?
 
~>Dg<~ said:
the thing is people dont realize or some dont how fast the i9 7900x is for eg or that it can be clocked very high.all the amd people for eg are singing the praise of threadripper which is going to be 3.8 ghz probably tops.when a decent 7900x will be 4.9-5.0.forget extra cores thats a big difference.so games already show a big difference over ryzens and x99 stuff. 40 fps alone on crysis 3 for eg.
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Can I borrow your deliding kit and also your wallet to pay for everything ;)
 
faxfan said:
I'm currently running a 5930K on a X99 platform with a m2 boot SSD, Intel 750 PCIE SSD and two 1080's in SLI.

I currently have 44 PCIE lanes - as I understand it, where does X299 fit in - it seems like same / less PCIE lanes (although I may not be utilising them all to be fair) and some more cores.

Have I missed something important here?
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Who cares about X299 and i9 when AMD's X399 and threadripper are available? Better prices, VRM doesn't explode, = performance for less $... it's just better. HEDT is totally owned by AMD in 2017. It could be argued that mainstream is owned by AMD at this point as well. Red team is back.

Google X299 VRM debacle and see the horror for yourself. If you overclock the VRMs barbecue on pretty much every X299 board.

OC3D called the X399 Zenith ROG board from ASUS "Flawless" and I've never seen Tiny Tom Logan so blown away by a motherboard/cpu platform before, and I've seen all his videos. If I could afford it I would be all over threadripper like white on rice.
 
Man, this Ryzen thing has really brought out the previously dormant fanboys hasn't it.

Personally i'm loving my 7900x, its a great cpu, working very nicely at 4.8ghz and 4GHz DDR4 @ CL17. No issues with VRM heat or any of the other horror stories that people like to disseminate.

Whatever anyone's thoughts, cant deny its good for competition having AMD back in the game, which is good for us all. This doesn't mean we will all want AMD platforms though, choice is a great thing.
 
mistersprinkles said:
Who cares about X299 and i9 when AMD's X399 and threadripper are available? Better prices, VRM doesn't explode, = performance for less $... it's just better. HEDT is totally owned by AMD in 2017. It could be argued that mainstream is owned by AMD at this point as well. Red team is back.

Google X299 VRM debacle and see the horror for yourself. If you overclock the VRMs barbecue on pretty much every X299 board.

OC3D called the X399 Zenith ROG board from ASUS "Flawless" and I've never seen Tiny Tom Logan so blown away by a motherboard/cpu platform before, and I've seen all his videos. If I could afford it I would be all over threadripper like white on rice.
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To be fair that's not the question I'm asking, certainly threadripper is on the radar but it is a very immature platform with issues i.e. can't boot from a raid array...
 
faxfan said:
To be fair that's not the question I'm asking, certainly threadripper is on the radar but it is a very immature platform with issues i.e. can't boot from a raid array...
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So don't use RAID :p. I'm sure that will be resolved through BIOS update in less than 3 months.
You can't argue with the value for money.

james_2k said:
Man, this Ryzen thing has really brought out the previously dormant fanboys hasn't it.
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The fanboys have risen... I mean ryzen.
 
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