Xbox Live NAT 'Moderate' - problem?

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Hey,

try as I might I cannot get an open NAT when testing my Xbox Live connection. I'm in a broadband blackspot so my connection is wireless (sent from a mast up on a hill) and is picked up by a receiver box on the side of the house which also acts as a router. I have no control over or access to this router and despite getting the isp to open ports 88 (UDP) and 3074 (UDP + TCP) I'm still stuck on moderate. I've tried setting up ICS, I've tried fiddling about with network bridges and now I've just set everything to automatic and have my 360 connected to my own router which dishes out the wired connection from the isp's router.

Now if anyone has any ideas on how to solve this then I'd really like to hear them, otherwise is being on a moderate NAT really such a disadvantage? Are there many people who I won't be able to connect to?

Cheers.
 
Moderate NAT causes some random issues ranging from not being able to play CoD3 online at all to matchmaking taking ages to find a team on halo 3.

I'd double check that the ISP have forwarded the correct ports.
 
Thats annoying, I'd like to get it sorted. My ISP said it had forwarded the ports but I'll double check. Could anything else be causing it? I'm not running a firewall myself as I'm effectively behind two routers. Just wish I could get access to the ISP's one then I might be able to find out whats causing the blockage.
 
mine is on moderate and is fine.

cant honestly say ive ever had any problems at all.

halo 3 picks up and gives u a warning no other game i think has ever mentioned it its fine.

you can free it up (ive done it before) by opening certain ports cant remember what or where i got the info. but i think i had to hard reset my router and lost the details havent done it since.

personally unless your having issues dont worry about it
 
With moderate NAT any invites Kronologic sent me for Halo 3 wouldn't work, someone else in the match had to invite me in. I think the problem there was we both had moderate NATs. Now I opened the ports I don't seem to have a problem.

The issue you seem to have though is that you don't have access to modify the port settings on your router, you have to trust that your ISP has done it for you.

Define 'they have opened the ports'. This sounds like they have confirmed that the ports are not being blocked (e.g. some ISP close the ports used by naughty services such as Bittorrent, this has nothing to do with port forwarding). Your router needs to have any data sent to those ports forwarded to the IP address of the Xbox, IIRC.
 
Depends on the router. My shoddy router does not support static IPs so I had to give the IP for the Xbox a lease time of forever, so that the one it has now doesn't get recycled.
 
My router is a speedtouch 585v6. I've set everything to automatic on the xbox and it seems to get a different IP each time I turn it on.
 
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Ah so you have access to that router's configuration?

I don't know anything about that specific model, but you need to assign the Xbox a static IP or increase its lease time and then configure port forwarding on the correct ports, so that they are forwarded to the IP of the Xbox. Sorry I can't be more help than that without knowing how your router works.

Alternatively, though I don't know anyone who has go this working, switch on UPnP which should automatically set up the correct forwarding. Though this plain doesn't work on my router.
 
I don't think the problem can be solved by my router. When I connected the xbox directly to the ethernet cable which runs from the router/receiver box into the house and which provides me with the connection I still had a 'moderate' NAT. So unless my router can perform some magic in between my xbox and this other router then I think I might be out of luck. Although I haven't tried using a static IP with my router yet.
 
solved mine by giving my router a static ip and putting it in the dmz.

Now it flys, no issues what so ever.

If you can, apply a static ip to it, and try the dmz route.
 
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I don't think the problem can be solved by my router. When I connected the xbox directly to the ethernet cable which runs from the router/receiver box into the house and which provides me with the connection I still had a 'moderate' NAT. So unless my router can perform some magic in between my xbox and this other router then I think I might be out of luck. Although I haven't tried using a static IP with my router yet.
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V0id I had exactly the same prob - there is a fix.

I'm not home right now and can't get the info for you but drop me an email and I'll send the response i got from Speedtouch tech support.

:D
 
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