Xclouds ll or agk702+modmic

depends entirely what you want and what you have driving them.

bear in mind I am the product manager for headsets at ocuk so I have tried pretty much everything we sell. With that in mind, I personally own the AKGs you have mentioned

The Cloud II is ok in my opinion a decent option. It sounds ok and the usb part that drives it is functional for the most part. Arguably, you will not find a better all in one solution for the money other than the Cloud 1 and a decent sound card.

The AKG are very much in a totally different league and it will entirely boil down to your use. The 702 is a reference headphone so for music listening they could be a little flat for you. This isn't necessarily a bad thing as I personally like to hear music that way. your mileage may vary.

For gaming the AKG is uncomparable to the Cloud. The AKG is open back so the sound is much more open and positional audio in games that utilise it will such as CS:GO will blow you away. I am regularly accused of cheating in the game simply because I can hear where enemies are because I have good headphones and little Johnny Ragequit from Russia has a 6 Euro Skype headset that came with his pc that can barely run the game.
If you have the money, go for the AKG. Especially if you are using it for gaming. Bear in mind they are open back so will have a lot of sound leak and try and get something good to drive them properly. I use a fairly high performance headphone amp/DAC combo but you can run them well with something like a Fiio E10K or similar and still net good results.


The mod mic is entirely up to you. I have one of them and they are grand, mic quality is ok but i guess this impacts the people you play with more than you. Option 2 is to look at a cheaper clip on mic but the modmic is the best selling microphone at OcUK by a 10:1 ratio against every other mic product combined for good reason.

hope this info has been helpful,
 
Edit: This^^

AKG's amped correctly will be better than the clouds. I use the 712pro with an essence STX on my PC and these are better than any gaming headset.
 
rjk said:
depends entirely what you want and what you have driving them.

bear in mind I am the product manager for headsets at ocuk so I have tried pretty much everything we sell. With that in mind, I personally own the AKGs you have mentioned

The Cloud II is ok in my opinion a decent option. It sounds ok and the usb part that drives it is functional for the most part. Arguably, you will not find a better all in one solution for the money other than the Cloud 1 and a decent sound card.

The AKG are very much in a totally different league and it will entirely boil down to your use. The 702 is a reference headphone so for music listening they could be a little flat for you. This isn't necessarily a bad thing as I personally like to hear music that way. your mileage may vary.

For gaming the AKG is uncomparable to the Cloud. The AKG is open back so the sound is much more open and positional audio in games that utilise it will such as CS:GO will blow you away. I am regularly accused of cheating in the game simply because I can hear where enemies are because I have good headphones and little Johnny Ragequit from Russia has a 6 Euro Skype headset that came with his pc that can barely run the game.
If you have the money, go for the AKG. Especially if you are using it for gaming. Bear in mind they are open back so will have a lot of sound leak and try and get something good to drive them properly. I use a fairly high performance headphone amp/DAC combo but you can run them well with something like a Fiio E10K or similar and still net good results.


The mod mic is entirely up to you. I have one of them and they are grand, mic quality is ok but i guess this impacts the people you play with more than you. Option 2 is to look at a cheaper clip on mic but the modmic is the best selling microphone at OcUK by a 10:1 ratio against every other mic product combined for good reason.

hope this info has been helpful,
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Thanks, I guess the question was kinda of odd if the fact that the price varies so much and agk should be a better headset.

I have seen the xcloud headsets recommended in a lot of places so figured they are excellent for the price.

I like the idea of the agk's but seems they need something to drive them so additional costs involved, but as you say agk's are better.
 
snappyfish said:
Thanks, I guess the question was kinda of odd if the fact that the price varies so much and agk should be a better headset.

I have seen the xcloud headsets recommended in a lot of places so figured they are excellent for the price.

I like the idea of the agk's but seems they need something to drive them so additional costs involved, but as you say agk's are better.
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I have just got hold of a set of Cloud II's, generally I'm really impressed. If you don't have a background of listening to high end headphones they will sound fantastic to you and you will most likely be very satisfied with them. rjk is the one to listen too though!
 
As someone with some high end headphones I was very impressed by the Cloud II's. And that is without factoring in the price which made them exemplary.
 
I just picked up a set of Cloud 2's and they good for the money. I'm no Pro gamer so spending more seemed silly to me.
 
Do the HyperX Cloud II's plugin and work straight away?
eg. If i was playing a game with the sound coming out of my pc monitor and then i wanted to use Cloud II headphones plugging them in without exiting the game i was playing.
 
Disco_P said:
World's number 1 CSGO team use HyperX Cloud headphones.
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if you think they do that out of choice then you need a reality check

Kingston, who own the Hyper X brand have an astonishing amount of money that they spend on marketing.

which is why the op is considering the cloud headset over the qpad.

by the way, we now sell the qpad open back version.
its the same as the cloud but with open back so you get a wider soundstage meaning you can pinpoint where people are better in games.

that will help you win games.
A pro team being paid thousands of dollars to use your headset will not help YOU win games.
 
The only real reasons to choose a closed backed headset are;
- you'll disturb your housemates/family and that bothers you,
- you are gaming in a noisy environment.

As RJK says, open backed headsets are better for positional sound and much, much better for music.

I have AKG Q701s and they are incredible, but my missus can hear every gunshot and every note in the next room. Thankfully, she doesn't care.
 
Another Q701 owner. Simply put these and any akg 7 series are leaps and bounds ahead of ANY headset you will buy sub £200 for both music and gaming.

After using the Q's for about a year now any other headset just sounds muddy and buisy. The soundstage and clarity of the AKG cans are superior in every way to any headset I have tried. The open back design is so airy and, well, open :D

As stated, things to consider are:

Can you drive them properly, your amp needs to be able to power these things. While they are not high impedance it does make a big difference when they are driven properly, bass is more pronounced and crisper, over all sound and stage is improved.

Open back means open back, basically a driver is hung in mid air over your ear. Above certain volumes my desk mic can pick up the sound coming form them, that being said getting close to these volumes is at the uncomfortable listening levels that I reserve for when I wish to really thrash some music, gaming this doesn't become a issue.

Sound signature. AKG Q and k 7 are more neutral, by that I mean they have a flatter signal response or better balanced sound. Bass while punchy and crisp is not going to be banging booming sub type of bass. I personally like this and have a hard time listening to anything else now.

Overall they are Steller headphones but not right for everyone, if you do fit the bill you will be getting a superb experience!
 
Kanifee said:
Another Q701 owner. Simply put these and any akg 7 series are leaps and bounds ahead of ANY headset you will buy sub £200 for both music and gaming.

After using the Q's for about a year now any other headset just sounds muddy and buisy. The soundstage and clarity of the AKG cans are superior in every way to any headset I have tried. The open back design is so airy and, well, open :D

As stated, things to consider are:

Can you drive them properly, your amp needs to be able to power these things. While they are not high impedance it does make a big difference when they are driven properly, bass is more pronounced and crisper, over all sound and stage is improved.

Open back means open back, basically a driver is hung in mid air over your ear. Above certain volumes my desk mic can pick up the sound coming form them, that being said getting close to these volumes is at the uncomfortable listening levels that I reserve for when I wish to really thrash some music, gaming this doesn't become a issue.

Sound signature. AKG Q and k 7 are more neutral, by that I mean they have a flatter signal response or better balanced sound. Bass while punchy and crisp is not going to be banging booming sub type of bass. I personally like this and have a hard time listening to anything else now.

Overall they are Steller headphones but not right for everyone, if you do fit the bill you will be getting a superb experience!
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Thanks, I am steering for AKG 702 and DAC :)
 
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