Xeon E5-2650 V4? In a Desktop?

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Hello guys sorry for the no knowledge question but I'm looking for a PC for my Dad. My friend's uncle works for some I.T firm and said he has a PC I can have for around £550. I know literally nothing about Xeon processors so have no idea if this is a decent buy. Here is the spec he sent me.

E5-2650 V4 Processor
16GB Ram
asrock fatal1ty X99N Killer Motherboard
256GB M.2 SSD
And a Radeon R7 360 (He won't be gaming)

Is this any good the other specs look fine but I'm not familiar with Xeon's at all.
 
Looks to be a 12 core 24 thread monster. I'd say that's an absolute bargain!

What is your dad going to do with the machine? If hes just checking his e-mails and facebook and stuff, then it seams a bit crazy for that lol.
 
new boy said:
Looks to be a 12 core 24 thread monster. I'd say that's an absolute bargain!

What is your dad going to do with the machine? If hes just checking his e-mails and facebook and stuff, then it seams a bit crazy for that lol.
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That's what I'm thinking haha. Anyway the guy sent me a couple of photo's just making sure everything is legit. What I find unusual is in his photo it say's in PC system it's a 'Genuine Intel CPU 0000' However he said that's because it's a engineering sample. Also in device manager it's showing as a i7 :/ Just don't want it to be too good to be true.



 
Well, its a 12 core 24 thread something at least from the screen shots, so I'd say it looks legit enough. ES chips can be problematic, They might not be as highly clocked or they might have features disabled, or they might not even be stable unlike a retail chip where you know what you are getting.

For the money, I think its a good deal, and I'd get it, but I wouldn't give it to my dad lol. However, you have to consider if your dad is going to benefit from it over like a celeron machine or something really. a 12 core machine probably isnt going to be much of an advantage for 99% of people, including gamers
 
new boy said:
Well, its a 12 core 24 thread something at least from the screen shots, so I'd say it looks legit enough. ES chips can be problematic, They might not be as highly clocked or they might have features disabled, or they might not even be stable unlike a retail chip where you know what you are getting.

For the money, I think its a good deal, and I'd get it, but I wouldn't give it to my dad lol. However, you have to consider if your dad is going to benefit from it over like a celeron machine or something really. a 12 core machine probably isnt going to be much of an advantage for 99% of people, including gamers
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Haha! I might give him my I7-4790K desktop or is that shooting myself in the foot?! I have zero knowledge of Xeon's. I mean he want's a PC, and he want's to spend around £400-600. I guess this will be better than most options out there even if it's overkill? I appreciate the help.
 
Just to add another opinion: I wouldn't, ES CPUs aren't supposed to be re-sold and like said above, you don't really know what you're getting and that many cores / threads aren't going to be useful for most types of usage anyway.
 
Your 4790k would probably be better for most games as it's clocked higher and the extra core on the xeon won't help most of the time
 
Tetras said:
Just to add another opinion: I wouldn't, ES CPUs aren't supposed to be re-sold and like said above, you don't really know what you're getting and that many cores / threads aren't going to be useful for most types of usage anyway.
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Upon a quick google search it does appear it's illegal to resell ES chips. However this chip is close to a grand on it's own. Dam. Do I dance with the devil on this one!
 
If it was my money I'd much rather have a legit Ryzen 5 1600 or whatever the 6-core Coffee equivalent will be. By the time that many cores / threads are helpful the CPU will likely be obsolete (for gaming) anyway.
 
The CPU will be fine, it will tear anything up that your typical user will do on their PC. I don't really see the problem?

It is in his budget, you wont get better for your money so go for it.
 
Biz.Kid09 said:
The CPU will be fine, it will tear anything up that your typical user will do on their PC. I don't really see the problem?

It is in his budget, you wont get better for your money so go for it.
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I'm just a little concerned about the engineering sample chip. Everything else seems perfect.
 
Nothing wrong with ES chips except they are deliberately clock limited. Gigabyte, MSI & Asrock X99 (LGA 2011 v3 socket) boards usually work fine with them. I've had 3 E5 2630L v3 Xeon's in X99 boards over the last year as I didn't need the high clock speeds and cost of a K enthusiast CPU but X99 boards are high quality and Xeon's give the full 40 PCI-E lane count.

I've still got one in my race sim rig with an RX 480 and it's fine running those sort of games.
 
bimbleuk said:
Nothing wrong with ES chips except they are deliberately clock limited. Gigabyte, MSI & Asrock X99 (LGA 2011 v3 socket) boards usually work fine with them. I've had 3 E5 2630L v3 Xeon's in X99 boards over the last year as I didn't need the high clock speeds and cost of a K enthusiast CPU but X99 boards are high quality and Xeon's give the full 40 PCI-E lane count.

I've still got one in my race sim rig with an RX 480 and it's fine running those sort of games.
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Great. I know they are quite different in ways but taking gaming out of the equation how would this Xeon processor say compare to a i7-4790k/6700k?
 
Either would be total overkill. Xeon better for extreme multi-threading. i7 much better for high end gaming + better GPU and general use. ES chip can be sold for £150+ and funds put towards a socket 2011 v3 desktop processor but still overkill for this scenario and more costly.

Just go search for a HP Elite 8200 i5 desktop (SFF = smaller case) and you'll find hundreds for ~£100 in various specs and all perfectly adequate for the task.
 
Picked up the PC today. When some benchmark's with Geek bench. Everything seem's to be working fine. Very fast I don't suppose there is a way to find out the exact CPU in the PC though?
 
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